Landlord says he has a gas safety certificate but doesn't seem able to provide it

tobiascurious

thanks everyone, some interesting answers
i'll speak to the landlord again

clutton_2

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Did you know that about 4000 people a year need hospital treatment as a result of electrocution/injuries and that about 50 people a year die?

and none of us know how many of these are tenants, or DIY crazed home owners, or landlords, or chefs, or bus drivers ......

Why arent LLs req'd to provide an electrical test cert or are they?

Landlords have a Duty of Care under several H&SAW Acts - we are not obliged to test electrics and get a certificate - but, it there were to be a fire, a Certificate would prove that a LL was taking his/her responsibilities seriously. A certificate is not the only way to prove efficient electrical installation - a witness statement from a NICCIE electrical engineer who had recently visited the property would also suffice.

Also how many people must get burt from hot water that is too hot?



Tenants also have duty of care to themselves under H&SAW Acts - common sense and a sense of caution should allow most folks to "test the water" first. If there is a thermostat, tenants are perfectly entitled to turn down the temperature - unless that is asking just too much of the poor wee darlings !

danielanthony

I'm not surprised that so many on here seem quite relaxed about a landlord breaking the law by not providing this certificate. I've noticed there is an abundance of LL's on here who would immediately suggest punishing a tennant if they broke some part of their tennancy agreement.

I'd like to know what recourse the OP has to get the certificate to which he is legally entitled?

silvercar

How dangerous?....

The point is that without a certificate you don't know if it is dangerous or not.

Of course a landlord should supply a certificate. Phone the private rentals officer at the council.

Pssst

clutton wrote: »

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Did you know that about 4000 people a year need hospital treatment as a result of electrocution/injuries and that about 50 people a year die?

and none of us know how many of these are tenants, or DIY crazed home owners, or landlords, or chefs, or bus drivers ......

Why arent LLs req'd to provide an electrical test cert or are they?

Landlords have a Duty of Care under several H&SAW Acts - we are not obliged to test electrics and get a certificate - but, it there were to be a fire, a Certificate would prove that a LL was taking his/her responsibilities seriously. A certificate is not the only way to prove efficient electrical installation - a witness statement from a NICCIE electrical engineer who had recently visited the property would also suffice.

Also how many people must get burt from hot water that is too hot?



Tenants also have duty of care to themselves under H&SAW Acts - common sense and a sense of caution should allow most folks to "test the water" first. If there is a thermostat, tenants are perfectly entitled to turn down the temperature - unless that is asking just too much of the poor wee darlings !

Indeed....I am just questioning the rationale which requires Gas certs but not electrical certs or certs for water temp control devices etc etc..

tobiascurious

so what do you think about bare wiring? is that very dangerous in itself or will it be OK if no-one touches it?!

Jowo_2

Bare wiring and lack of gas safety certificate.

The fact is that from a risk assessment, the likelihood of the risk being realised is low. Unfortunately, the impact if it is realised is high - it's death.

While a landlord doesn't have to provide an electrical safety certificate, they are still obliged to ensure there are no electrical hazards.

As per the previous posters, if your landlord isn't cooperating, bring it to the attention of your local council asap who will undertake a health and safety assessment of the property and compel the landlord to do the work, or they will prosecute him for his criminal behaviour.

GarryJ68

tobiascurious wrote: »

What should I do? How dangerous is it to live in a house with no gas safety certificate?

There's a gas fire but we don't use it, and the central heating is gas. It's a prepayment meter.

There should always be one left in the house and given to the tennant. As a landlord I renew this every year and normally get three copies from the Corgi gas fitter and leave one by the meter in the house. Its only £55 to get it done... I'm sure there must be some sort of reporting procedure

Woodywoodside_2

A property cannot be let with out a landlords cert, the fines is £5000. It must be displayed in the property not just shown. Its not just your boiler but all applicances in cluding pipework.
Call Gas Safe and report your landlord he is putting your life and several others lifes at risk.

theartfullodger

Write to the LA/LL and state you in view of the absence of a Gas safety cert you are asking the council to run an HHSRS risk assessment.

You will hear from the LA/LL in a surprisingly short period of time, or you really do have a very dumb LL..


See.
http://www.communities.gov.uk/housing/rentingandletting/housinghealth/

Cheers!

Lodger