Is this ticket valid

darich

dori2o wrote: »

I was parked on yellow lines

So why are you questioning the ticket?

sarahg1969

darich wrote: »

So why are you questioning the ticket?

Because maybe it's not correct? That's reasonable, isn't it?

darich

sarahg1969 wrote: »

Because maybe it's not correct? That's reasonable, isn't it?

But the OP has admitted they parked on yellow lines
I don't see how he/she can then complain about a ticket

Neil_B

darich wrote: »

But the OP has admitted they parked on yellow lines
I don't see how he/she can then complain about a ticket

The picture clearly shows that the yellow lines fade out. Hence it is not known if the restriction at that location still exists as it is not compliantly signed.

If restriction is intended and is still noted in the Traffic Regulation Order for the location then surely the Council would have maintained the lines.

More pics would help, as someone said.

Neil_B

trish2568 wrote: »

according to plod you can (can not find written legalisation on this)maybe scare tactics,fines can go up to £2500 apparently.

As Peter explained, NOT specifically for pavement parking. Only for obstruction which is a different matter and covered by different legislation.
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peter_the_piper

darich wrote: »

But the OP has admitted they parked on yellow lines
I don't see how he/she can then complain about a ticket

So if you parked on yellow lines, paid the fine and then found that the council had put them down without legislation and so were refunding money, you would not ask for it back? We are just trying to make sure its right before paying.

darich

peter_the_piper wrote: »

So if you parked on yellow lines, paid the fine and then found that the council had put them down without legislation and so were refunding money, you would not ask for it back? We are just trying to make sure its right before paying.

Yes I would...but that's not what the OP asked.

The OP asked if the ticket was valid on the basis of faded/broken yellow lines.....but admitted they parked on them.
I'm suggesting that by admitting the lines were there, it therefore means they're visible and I'm unsure how the arguement will stand up if they complain to the council that they're faded. The council will not unreasonably reply saying they're visible....and they are because the OP saw them and admitted parking on them.

Your example isn't accurate at all - we don't know if the council is refunding tickets......nor do we know if the legislation is in place.

The question was asked - I parked on yellow lines but they're faded - can I dodge the ticket.

I'd reply - no - the lines may be faded, but if you knew you were parked on them then they're not so faded to be invisible.
Photo 2 clearly shows the end of the yellows under the bumper - further evidence that they're not so faded to be invisible.

I'm all for arguing a case and fighting for my corner but I don't think you can say "I parked on yellow lines but they're faded so can i dodge the ticket?"

RobertoMoir

darich wrote: »

I'm all for arguing a case and fighting for my corner but I don't think you can say "I parked on yellow lines but they're faded so can i dodge the ticket?"

Clearly you "think" wrongly because people can say that. In fact you just did above. Easy isn't it? If a restriction requires a specific set of signs/road painting in order to be valid then it can't be enforced if any part of the signage or whatever is missing.

darich

RobertoMoir wrote: »

Clearly you "think" wrongly because people can say that. In fact you just did above. Easy isn't it? If a restriction requires a specific set of signs/road painting in order to be valid then it can't be enforced if any part of the signage or whatever is missing.

Maybe you should read the first two cases of this website then.

Also what would be the situation if there was 6inches of snow covering the ground? does that render the lines useless because they're not visible?
What about a channel/gutter that's full of leaves or litter? Are those lines to be ignored too?

Faded or not - they were clear enough for the OP to see them and admit parking on them.....I don't see what the issue is here.

If there are/were no signs to enforce the order then that's a different ball game....but the OP didn't ask that and has made no mention of a lack of signs...so the assumption is that they are there and clearly visible.

flyingscotno1

Neil_B wrote: »

As Peter explained, NOT specifically for pavement parking. Only for obstruction which is a different matter and covered by different legislation.
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Similarly you could theoretically be prosecuted under numerous offences for driving on the pavement, typically careless driving, as you have to drive on the pavement to get on and off.