Empty car park with no signs about clamping etc

mrbadexample

27col wrote: »

Just because it is an empty building doesn't give you the right to park there.What you are doing is not "a bit cheeky" as you seem to think. It is a "big cheek" that you think that some stranger should provide you with free parking. You would not think of using the empty building to have your lunch in, so why should you think that it is all right to use their car park.
Having said that, it is about time that this useless government copied the Scots and made private clamping illegal. I do not think that fairness is a word that crops up very often in the conversations of PPC and clampers.

I don't see why you think it's so out of order? The building's empty. It causes inconvenience and cost to no-one.

It's saving £6 a day - that's not an inconsequential sum of money to many people. I'd continue to park there, whilst keeping a close eye on the situation. The moment a "no parking" sign goes up, I'd move on. I think the chances of getting clamped sound slim, but the OP's the best person to judge that. Are there clampers working in other areas nearby?

Firefox1975

Why not contact the owners - through the estate agents - and make an offer directly?!?

someone owns the land and I am sure they would want the income. If you could drum up enough interest in other people parking there before you contact them they might give you a referral fee of, oh I don;t know, maybe .................."free parking!"

actually would the owners have to insure the land then? hmmm

peter_the_piper

Or even have planning permission?

27col

mrbadexample wrote: »

I don't see why you think it's so out of order? The building's empty. It causes inconvenience and cost to no-one.

It's saving £6 a day - that's not an inconsequential sum of money to many people. I'd continue to park there, whilst keeping a close eye on the situation. The moment a "no parking" sign goes up, I'd move on. I think the chances of getting clamped sound slim, but the OP's the best person to judge that. Are there clampers working in other areas nearby?

The fact that it is empty and that no inconvenience is caused is nothing to do with anything. The fact of the matter is that it is someone else's property and the op has a damn cheek assuming that they can use it without permission.

adouglasmhor

OP why don't you send a letter saying can you park there while it is empty with no responsibility claimed from estate agents (ie. at your own risk) and giving a mobile number to contact you if you need to move it at short notice. The worst they can say is No.

Gordon861

adouglasmhor wrote: »

OP why don't you send a letter saying can you park there while it is empty with no responsibility claimed from estate agents (ie. at your own risk) and giving a mobile number to contact you if you need to move it at short notice. The worst they can say is No.

Chances are they will say no as a matter of principle. They can't charge you for it without running foul of some planning regulation or having to declare the income, also the income should go to the owner and not the estate agent. If you do anything formal they will also have to take it seriously and actually do something. The best thing to do is if you see an estate agent at the site, talk to them and let them know you are only parking their whilst the site is vacant. A casual approach will probably get a better response than a letter. If the estate agent is local you might also want to just pop in when they aren't busy as well.

If the place you are parking is just an empty buildings car park with no signs and no gate I would just continue doing so but keep your eyes open for any signs to appear at some point in the future. And be aware that you could end up with a clamp and in an argument with the clamping firm at some point.