We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Misleading contract

2

Comments

  • sunshine54
    sunshine54 Posts: 400 Forumite
    3 should advertise thier plans as 4000 texts, 1 gb internet
    not "unlimited" "small print subject to fair usage"

    This is blatant deceit however they dress it up.
    Fair usage? how about fair disclosure of contract terms!:mad:


    3.jpg
  • eljmayes
    eljmayes Posts: 473 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    macman wrote: »
    Plenty of broadband providers publicise an 'unlimited download' service, but it is still subject to a fair use policy in every case. I take your point in principle, but if you're never going to get to 4K texts a month then what does it matter?
    I totally agree, even though texts are so cheap to source there has to be some sort of a limit:).
  • sunshine54
    sunshine54 Posts: 400 Forumite
    eljmayes wrote: »
    I totally agree, even though texts are so cheap to source there has to be some sort of a limit:).

    the justification or reason for a "limit" is not in dispute, it is the 3 promotion of an UNLIMITED service that is clearly misleading and a deliberate exageration of what is actually on offer.

    it the same as british gas offering unlimited gas subject to a fair use policy buried deep in the contract T&c.

    meaningless deliberate deceit
  • sunshine54 wrote: »
    the justification or reason for a "limit" is not in dispute, it is the 3 promotion of an UNLIMITED service that is clearly misleading and a deliberate exageration of what is actually on offer.

    it the same as british gas offering unlimited gas subject to a fair use policy buried deep in the contract T&c.

    meaningless deliberate deceit

    To be fair it's not just 3, its all mobile companies and other operators have much lower fair use policies, especially on mobile internet.

    It would take all of the companies to stop the term unlimited at the same time else one would have a distinct advantage. I cant see any of them taking the lead somehow.
  • joeypesci wrote: »
    Exactly. That's what I want to know. I can do about 2500 txts per month. Prefer txting to talking on the phone.

    So I'd like to know what happens if I keep going over. Only usage page on 3 it clearly shows and counts down that I have 4000 txt per month but I paid for an unlimited service. Can they come back with "You should of read the fair usage policy". But can't you deem that as an unfair contract as it was clearly touted as unlimited txts.


    Afaik if you reach the fair usage limit on 3 they will begin charging you at their standard text rate. I don't think the other networks charge you if you go over but I could be wrong.
  • joeypesci
    joeypesci Posts: 678 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts
    macman wrote: »
    Plenty of broadband providers publicise an 'unlimited download' service, but it is still subject to a fair use policy in every case. I take your point in principle, but if you're never going to get to 4K texts a month then what does it matter?

    It matters but I can get close to 4K a month and don't want to be charged if I go over.
  • To be fair it's not just 3, its all mobile companies and other operators have much lower fair use policies, especially on mobile internet.

    It would take all of the companies to stop the term unlimited at the same time else one would have a distinct advantage. I cant see any of them taking the lead somehow.

    But I feel by law they should all be made to stop using the term Unlimited when it's clearly limited.
  • kai666
    kai666 Posts: 1,431 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    joeypesci wrote: »
    It matters but I can get close to 4K a month and don't want to be charged if I go over.

    you send close to 4000 texts a month:eek:

    you'll give youself RSI!
  • Fair use for downloads is fine. They were originally there to stop people sharing broadband. If you live in a small cul-de-sac, like I do, you could provide internet for 14 houses using 1 connection and 2 x 802.11N repeaters. Which saves a lot compared with 14 times BT's broadband costs :-)

    However, for a mobile phone, fair use should only restrict a phone for 1 person for 1 use (eg home phone for personal use). So while it would be wrong to use an unlimited talk time phone for a phone based business, restricting an avid texter would be wrong. If you twitter 20 times an hour for 8 hours, 30 days a month, you'll soon reach 4000.
  • kai666
    kai666 Posts: 1,431 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 7 September 2009 at 4:08PM
    If you twitter 20 times an hour for 8 hours, 30 days a month, you'll soon reach 4000.

    Do people seriously twitter 20 times an hour, 8 hours a day, every day?

    Thats every 3 minutes. Who's going to that over an 8 hour period each and every day?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 353.5K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455K Spending & Discounts
  • 246.6K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 602.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.1K Life & Family
  • 260.6K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.