How hard is it to get a job having misconduct against you?

kissit

cheers chriswatts, i just cannot believe it that this is the first time that i have snapped at somebody and because the world we live in people put complaints in and get people sacked for it.
as it says in employment law,acas that i should have been given the opportunity to say sorry to the accused.

cheers stevo.

RobertoMoir

woody01 wrote: »

Gross Misconduct is a very serious thing. Gross Misconduct is also one of the few things someone can instantly lose their job over. No-one to my knowledge has ever been fired for normal misconduct.

Regardless whether people need a second chance, how many employers with any modicum of intelligence would employ someone that had been previous fired for Gross Misconduct.......very few if any. I know i wouldn't/haven't.

I refused an instruction that would have caused me to break the law if I had accepted, and which also seriously compromised my own personal code of ethics.
I was dismissed for misconduct on that basis.

Frankly, I'm cool with that, and it didn't stop me getting another job.

taylor21_2

Good luck tomorrow kissit.

kissit

thanx Robertomoir,

but whatever happens its going to be had to find another job with gross misconduct on your file.

kissit

thanx taylor21 i do appreciate it. thanx.

RobertoMoir

kissit wrote: »

thanx Robertomoir,

but whatever happens its going to be had to find another job with gross misconduct on your file.

Oh it will be. I just wanted to make a counterpoint to woody's statement. At the risk of sounding trite, good luck.

kissit

how did u find a job with gross misconduct on your file or did u lie about it?

RobertoMoir

Nobody asked me about it and I never volunteered the information. I don't lie, but that doesn't mean you have to rush to tell people things if they don't ask.

kissit

very true well i am not going to rush and tell anybody thats for sure.....

woody01

RobertoMoir wrote: »

I refused an instruction that would have caused me to break the law if I had accepted, and which also seriously compromised my own personal code of ethics.
I was dismissed for misconduct on that basis.

Frankly, I'm cool with that, and it didn't stop me getting another job.

I am sorry but NO tribunal in the civilised world would've upheld that decision.

So either:
a). The situation wasn't dangerous at all.
b). You didn't take it further, if so, i can't imagine why if you are that sure you are right
c). You are working in the unskilled labour sector
d). It's not a true story

It also depends on the line of work somebody does to a certain extent.
If someone is sweeps the floors, collects trolleys or works in a factory then nobody would really care anyway. (not knocking these jobs as they are hard and people make a living:) )
However, if the position is one of authority and well paid then no chance.

RobertoMoir wrote: »

Oh it will be. I just wanted to make a counterpoint to woody's statement. At the risk of sounding trite, good luck.

Which i am sure you will agree failed miserably.
If you had disclosed this information to the employer and they still took you on, i would have to agree with you.
Seeing as you didn't you have not made a good case.

RobertoMoir wrote: »

Nobody asked me about it and I never volunteered the information. I don't lie, but that doesn't mean you have to rush to tell people things if they don't ask.

This therefore suggests that you know they would not have employed you or will fire you if they find out.
With this knowledge, your argument holds absolutely no credibility at all.
It also appears from the lack of reference seeking that you fall into category C.

kissit wrote: »

very true well i am not going to rush and tell anybody thats for sure.....

Unfortunately though, any good employer, that offers a good, well paid job, will seek references.

I like the 'thanks' you got from Louise.
It's only a matter of time before someone came along that agrees with her. Law of averages and all that