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How hard is it to get a job having misconduct against you?

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  • woody01
    woody01 Posts: 1,918 Forumite
    Louise22 wrote: »
    I hardly see how that is fair to be honest. Lots of people get in trouble for silly things, as misconduct can cover lots. When I was 16 I once lost £5 from my till when I worked for Mcdonalds, that counted as misconduct and I got a warning.

    Should I be banned from the world of work forever? People need second chances. There are often reasons behind things and peoples behaviour.

    Gross Misconduct is a very serious thing. Gross Misconduct is also one of the few things someone can instantly lose their job over. No-one to my knowledge has ever been fired for normal misconduct.

    Regardless whether people need a second chance, how many employers with any modicum of intelligence would employ someone that had been previous fired for Gross Misconduct.......very few if any. I know i wouldn't/haven't.
  • Louise22
    Louise22 Posts: 1,855 Forumite
    woody01 wrote: »
    Gross Misconduct is a very serious thing. Gross Misconduct is also one of the few things someone can instantly lose their job over. No-one to my knowledge has ever been fired for normal misconduct.

    Regardless whether people need a second chance, how many employers with any modicum of intelligence would employ someone that had been previous fired for Gross Misconduct.......very few if any. I know i wouldn't/haven't.

    well I just dont agree with that, but thats totally your choice. People deserve a second chance. We all make mistakes, yourself included. When I worked for RBS, one of my colleagues was sacked for gross misconduct because of his cash differences. Ok, maybe he should not work with cash again, but by your reasoning he would never get another job again. Who is to say that he would not be utterly fantastic at something else?

    Kissit - you will be absolutely fine, even if you do get the sack. Like you say, you have another job that you can rely on. If you are working two jobs at the same time, cant you just put the NHS one down as your reference and ignore the other one if you do get sacked?
  • zfrl
    zfrl Posts: 641 Forumite
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    Why would you put it on your CV?
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    "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill
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  • Louise22
    Louise22 Posts: 1,855 Forumite
    zfrl wrote: »
    Why would you put it on your CV?

    depends if the skills needed for a new job were gained during this other job.
  • kissit
    kissit Posts: 106 Forumite
    good shout louise. the problem with gross misconduct is that it covers a wide range of things and lots more people are getting sacked for gross misconduct.
  • Louise22
    Louise22 Posts: 1,855 Forumite
    kissit wrote: »
    good shout louise. the problem with gross misconduct is that it covers a wide range of things and lots more people are getting sacked for gross misconduct.

    yeah agreed. Maybe also bear in mind that when it comes to referencing, many employers only put the basics down - like dates of employment. Of course they can say whatever they want as long as it is factual and they can back it up, but in my experience they only give the very basics.
  • DKLS
    DKLS Posts: 13,461 Forumite
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    edited 6 August 2009 at 12:19PM
    If I was interviewing the OP, I wouldn't class swearing at an employee, as Gross misconduct and definitely wouldn't hold it against him.
    Theft or violence, I would take more seriously, but would like to see in what context

    e.g a an old employee of mine was sexually harassed and after going down the official route and getting no where she rearranged his testicles with her knee at full force, and was consequently let go. I didnt hold that against her, each case on its own merits.

    If he had the right skills for the job and the personality to fit the team he would be in.
  • kissit
    kissit Posts: 106 Forumite
    well i havnt caused any violence or theft or even rearranged somebodies testicles all i did was swear at him twice and not in a aggresive way. its because two people have tried to get me sacked and they have tried to bully somebody else into giving a statement which they did but later took away because he thought he was being bullied into it.

    blimey i have been with the firm for 22 years and no trouble up till this day.
  • DKLS
    DKLS Posts: 13,461 Forumite
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    You swore twice! Jesus wept, I could understand if you swore at a client.
  • richardw
    richardw Posts: 19,459 Forumite
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    Did it begin with B, C or F?
    Posts are not advice and must not be relied upon.
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