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edmund_blackadder

Hopefully this is being posted on many forums!

It has certainly been posted on the Heartline Forum and the Little Hearts Matter forum so hopefully lots of people will sign up!

healy

massey7466 wrote: »

Healy
I really hope that sometime in the future you never need any care because of a disability. I have been disabled for the past 4 years after a major accident causing me to be a paraplegic in need of care and help. I was in the army fit well and serving my country. I get DLA care and mobility if the benefits are cut and the money goes to Social Services and controlled how the money is used for services only I hope you can come and pay my bills I get a half pension for the forces as the accident did not happen on active service and had 10 years to retirement. I rely on the DLA to provide a car with adaptations and the care portion to pay my bills. My wife is my carer but has to work to make ends. If the gvnmt do as they want every disabled person whether legitimate or not will have the money cut. There are no plans to replace it and no green paper to say how the money is to be spent only that Social Services will use it to provide services. Does that mean the Council Tax will reduce as a portion of that goes to pay for social services? It is not a perfect world I agree and I still have to have medicals to prove I am still a paraplegic??? I failed once because the ATOS Medical ticked a wrong box and was classed as fit to work and fully able-bodied.
I know that some people fradulantly claim however the gvnmt do try and crack down on this quite vervantly. However for the 100 Million fradulantly claimed, there are companies in the UK that operate and trade fully and only in the UK but use the Tax Havens of Jersey or other tax havens and evade over a billion per year in corporate tax.
The tax office themselves rent ALL of their offices from a company that was formed in the UK but moved its hq to Jersey to evade the tax paid by the tax office. This is a greater amount for any gvnmt to try and rectify but it is easier to persecute the individual or the less able in society than go for the big bucks.
Look at the bigger picture Healy LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE

You will keep the mobility component of DLA.

Social Services would hopefully suppy the care needed - see my other post.

seven-day-weekend

Volvodriver wrote: »

Can someone tell me how to post a message from scratch please?

Thanks

Click on Forums at the very top of the board; this will bring you to the forums menu.

Then pick the board you want to post , say Disability and Dosh. Click on that, then at the top there is a button saying New Thread.

Good Luck!

mealone

This is about means testing DLA/AA by the back door, now you get DLA/AA to pay for the extra costs of disability but they want to only those on means tested benefits to recieve anything so anyone whos worked and saved gets nowt, wether they be young or old so those of us with private pensions will be denied the care needed for age related care needs due to the axe of AA and those younger than 65 who have working partners or savings will also get nowt.

qwertyuiop12345

healy wrote: »

You will keep the mobility component of DLA.

Social Services would hopefully suppy the care needed - see my other post.

I just can't imagine how local social services will provide day and night care for the £70.35 a week that they currently give to people assessed as needing constant care.

Also, whatever way they attempt to do this, it will cause a 'postcode lottery' situation where disabled people will have very different provisions of care depending on what local authority they reside in.

However, I do find it hard to believe that any government would actually scrap DLA, it would just seem so unbelievably cruel to some of the people in society who are most in need of help.

krisskross

I would think that if AA should be abolished then certainly DLA being paid to the over 65s would have to suffer the same fate. It really would not be fair if one 66 year old could get financial help and another one couldn't simply because the need didn't arise until after the 65th birthday. It is bad enough that there is no mobility element for AA whereas someone getting DLA mobility just a month before their 65th birthday would possibly keep the payments for the rest of their life whilst someone else with worse mobility issues would get nothing.

healy

qwertyuiop12345 wrote: »

I just can't imagine how local social services will provide day and night care for the £70.35 a week that they currently give to people assessed as needing constant care.

Also, whatever way they attempt to do this, it will cause a 'postcode lottery' situation where disabled people will have very different provisions of care depending on what local authority they reside in.

However, I do find it hard to believe that any government would actually scrap DLA, it would just seem so unbelievably cruel to some of the people in society who are most in need of help.

They do not give that money for constant care all the time, to qualify for HRC someone does not need care for the full 24 hours.

There already is a postcode lottery where people receive care from the local authority.

I think it will happen in some form by either this Government or the next, as we know it is all about money.

qwertyuiop12345

healy wrote: »

They do not give that money for constant care all the time, to qualify for HRC someone does not need care for the full 24 hours.

There already is a postcode lottery where people receive care from the local authority.

I think it will happen in some form by either this Government or the next, as we know it is all about money.

You need to need help "frequently throughout the day and during the night" to get this rate - for many people that equates to pretty much constant care.

Yes there is already a postcode lottery where in some areas people get extra help, but at least at the moment everyone who qualifies gets a certain minimum amount of help.

healy

qwertyuiop12345 wrote: »

You need to need help "frequently throughout the day and during the night" to get this rate - for many people that equates to pretty much constant care.

Yes there is already a postcode lottery where in some areas people get extra help, but at least at the moment everyone who qualifies gets a certain minimum amount of help.

Yes for some it will be quite constant but for others not so contstant, if you added up the time required to help someone in order to get HRC it does not come to that much.

I think the problem is that the care allowance can be spent on anything at the moment and they want to move away from this.

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If this or the next govt want to save some money then they are not going to re-invest the money saved not paying DLA care into social services or who ever providing the care,after all they are hard pushed atm to provide care for those who desperatly need.An example of this would be my sons 21 year old stepson who is terminally ill,upto last year he got a weeks respite provided by social services every 8 weeks,at a moments notice it was withdrawn due to lack of funds.He now only gets 3 days repsite every 3 months provided by a hospice.
Let us be under NO allusions any changes reAA or DLA will be for one purpose and one purpose only,robbing those most at need,and those least able to fight for their rights.
If anyone believes that DLA money should only be paid to those in genuine need of financial support,then maybe the time has come to means test this universal benefit,which of course at a stroke would remove it from most claimants who manage to work for a living.