JSA - Refusing job on moral grounds.

Adereterial

bungle4x4 wrote: »

i wonder if the social get reports on people doing just this, i would stop the benefits in a heart-beat after something like this.

morals or dinner.

Sorry, but you're very, very wrong here.

We respect other people's religious and moral views in this country. People are allowed to refuse an offer of employment on moral grounds. No-one would expect a Muslim to work in a pork sausage factory, for example, and it is accepted that there are some types of jobs which only a few people would be willing to take on.

You have to show evidence of a jobsearch giving you reasonable prospects of finding employment - this would mean applying for jobs you may be successful in getting and that you could hold down, not any job just for the sake of it. It is permissable for a vegetarian to refuse to work in abbatoirs, butchers etc. There is a line where it becomes silly (refusing to work on a supermarket till because they sold meat, for example, would be unacceptable), but people are allowed input in what they do. Otherwise we would expect people to apply for every advertised vacancy which didn't specify qualifications or experience.

The OPs sister has every right to choose what type of work she wants to do.

raphaelangelo

Adereterial, thank you very much for your helpful, informative and interesting response. As I said, although I am not sure that everyone understood, the question was raised as a point of interest. My sis will, I am sure, find suitable employment very soon as she is no idler. We were both unaware of what the regulations said about these things and merely wanted to be better informed, being interested in all matters of law, rights and responsibilities and political issues.

Bungle, my post was edited because of a typo before you posted. Sorry to disappoint you. For the record, I am in full-time employment as a Service Manager in a large motor dealership and have been for many years and unlike my 'sister', as you put it, I sadly have no animal welfare qualifications. Sorry to disappoint you again and thank you for your input.

peachyprice

Why could she not take the job and do her best to make a real difference to these greyhounds, surely it's better to be in the inside where she can do something contructive.

raphaelangelo

peachyprice wrote: »

Why could she not take the job and do her best to make a real difference to these greyhounds, surely it's better to be in the inside where she can do something contructive.

It's a long, long story, and the reasons why she would be shunned and rapidly sacked are many and varied. Perhaps the biggest is the unwillingness of the industry to work with rescues.

I appreciate that this isn't the place for me to go into detail but if you'd like to know more, you may like to Google Greytexploitations, one of the many websites which informs and campaigns for the welfare of racing Greyhounds.

Adereterial

She's not qualified for the position. I'm fairly certain that the employer would want someone who did not hold a moral objection.

Marie Stopes, for example, wants people to work for them who don't hold a moral objection to abortion. They would not employ someone who did. A qualified nurse is technically qualified for the position, but not if they hold a moral objection to abortion.

And for the record - the number of new claims is falling, and the number of people moving off benefit and into work is rising. The notion that we're struggling is nonsense when it comes to JSA. And we're more concerned with ensuring that the true scroungers don't get away with it, rather than someone who really wants to work but doesn't want one particular job on ethical grounds.

bungle4x4

ifs she's not qualified for the position then why this thread?

im glad you think the country is doing well, but as your a service manager for a car company ill take everything you say with a pinch of salt

raphaelangelo

bungle4x4 wrote: »

ifs she's not qualified for the position then why this thread?

im glad you think the country is doing well, but as your a service manager for a car company ill take everything you say with a pinch of salt

You have Adereterial and I mixed up.

Adereterial clearly works in an area specialising in JSA and it is she who made the remark about the country doing well, not I.

That you would take anything said by anyone in my profession with a pinch of salt indicates that perhaps you don't have the pleasure of driving an Alfa.

mvengemvenge

Going back to the original post, I think it highly unlikely she would have her money suspended for only turning down a job that she obviously had problems with on moral grounds, as long as she wasn't turning down lots of other jobs as well..

My opinion would change if she was coming up with reasons for not going for every job offered to her. If that is not the case, I wouldn't send a case like hers to the Decision Maker.

bungle4x4

with an alfa, you will be seeing a lot of the service manager.

'no sir, its supposed to be on it roof, its how we check the tyres'

raphaelangelo

bungle4x4 wrote: »

with an alfa, you will be seeing a lot of the service manager.

'no sir, its supposed to be on it roof, its how we check the tyres'

:D:D As if! We only put 'em on their roofs to keep the electrics in place!

Is that an apology for insinuating that my sister doesn't exist then?!