Indicating on a roundabout

almillar

NoLogic - you were on the roundabout 1st. If you want to drive round in circles all day on it, all other traffic has to give way to you.
In your situation, you're in the outside lane on a clear road, you should be on the inside lane. But ignoring that it's a rule on any road that you should be able to stop within a safe distance, and the car behind is usually blamed (hence the idiots who deliberately slam on their brakes in front of you for insurance fraud).
Sounds to me like you're both driving too fast for your abilities, and you're in the wrong lane, and should have been indicating left when you had passed the exit for 'B'. But the other driver also didn't give way to you, and should not have entered the roundabout no matter what your indications, as being in the outside lane you were bound to be going to D or E and not B.

cyclonebri1

almillar wrote: »

NoLogic - you were on the roundabout 1st. If you want to drive round in circles all day on it, all other traffic has to give way to you.
In your situation, you're in the outside lane on a clear road, you should be on the inside lane. But ignoring that it's a rule on any road that you should be able to stop within a safe distance, and the car behind is usually blamed (hence the idiots who deliberately slam on their brakes in front of you for insurance fraud).
Sounds to me like you're both driving too fast for your abilities, and you're in the wrong lane, and should have been indicating left when you had passed the exit for 'B'. But the other driver also didn't give way to you, and should not have entered the roundabout no matter what your indications, as being in the outside lane you were bound to be going to D or E and not B.

What a load of toss

NoLogic

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Well done for putting that one into print, gave me a headache for a while:rolleyes:

The answer being, in my view, it would be their fault, but as they would argue you were side by side and you deliberatly cut into them, it was your f........
Get my drift ?, caution needed at all times.

There's one view on all this that stacks up, would you rather have an accident knowing you were in the right?, or give way, (and avoid one), to the total prat that does not care either way? :money: :money:

haha sorry Yeah, I thought I'd be in the right. Point D isn't a main road, all the others are, everyone seems to assume you're going to point E and jumps out from point C, almost always causing accidents! There's only about 5 metres from the junctions for point C and D, so I don't think they could use the side by side arguement as they'd hit me side on!

almillar wrote: »

NoLogic - you were on the roundabout 1st. If you want to drive round in circles all day on it, all other traffic has to give way to you.
In your situation, you're in the outside lane on a clear road, you should be on the inside lane. But ignoring that it's a rule on any road that you should be able to stop within a safe distance, and the car behind is usually blamed (hence the idiots who deliberately slam on their brakes in front of you for insurance fraud).
Sounds to me like you're both driving too fast for your abilities, and you're in the wrong lane, and should have been indicating left when you had passed the exit for 'B'. But the other driver also didn't give way to you, and should not have entered the roundabout no matter what your indications, as being in the outside lane you were bound to be going to D or E and not B.

I'd be in the right (inside) lane. As I explained above with point C and D being so close im not driving too fast :S I have to speed up when I come off just to not get hit!

Liz3yy

I was taught the following:

When going right indicate right
When going left indicate left
When going straight on, only indicate once you get past the exit before the one you want to leave at.

Thriftysaver

Liz3yy,

I was taught exactly the same and so was my son. I would stay in the left lane to go straight, indicating just after the exit before I was coming off.

almillar

cyclonebri1 - can you criticise a bit more constructively? I'm actually saying roughly the same thing as you!

creased-leach

NoLogic wrote: »

I've always wondered this:

......D
C.. |
B- O - E
.....|
.....A

If this were a two lane roundabout with the O just being the roundabout, if I came into a clear roundabout at point A in the right lane, (not indicating at all) and someone else joined at point B in the left lane, and I came off at point D (indicated left after point C), but they intended to go to point E, and they were going so fast that I hit them, who's fault would it be?
Theirs because they joined when it wasnt clear? Or mine for going into their lane even though they shouldn't have joined/sped up so much?

Am I just not seeing this because of the difficulties in "drawing" on here- or are you going straight over- in which case why are you in the RH lane?

cyclonebri1

almillar wrote: »

cyclonebri1 - can you criticise a bit more constructively? I'm actually saying roughly the same thing as you!

OK, just how did you make a link from this thread to people deliberately causing accidents to claim on the insurance ? ?

yes we know ir happens, but rarely, genuine accidents are much more common

hundredk

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

I can assure you my driving is anything but sloppy and lacking in confidence, but my methods have kept me accident free for quite a time so I'll stick with them for the time being. But thanks for your concern:rolleyes:

Well unless you hit something stationary your methods of signalling when no one is there should keep you accident free:rolleyes:. But are you saying that people who don't signal when no one can see it are more likely to have an accident. IMO I think not because they are reading the road and situation.

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Pray tell which is the bigger crime, signalling when not absolutely needed or not signalling because you didn't think the driver would "benefit", or plain simply you didn't see him??

So you signal all the time to avoid actually looking and in the hope that someone may benefit?

If you read my post properly you will see I was referrring to drivers who signal when not necessary. If you are driving and there is no one to signal to on the road and surrounding highway then the signal is not necessary. You know this by observing ahead and all around (a point that is reinforced even more in advanced driving). If you cannot observe enough to make that judgement then you are a hazard on the road.

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

And don't quite understand where you got that bold association from;)

From years of accident free motoring good observation. Ditherers who creep all the way round roundabouts in the left lane with right indicator on are a hazard, as are those who hover with their right signal at T junctions (when the signal is necessaray) waiting to pull out, only to do so when the gap they had has halved yet still they carry on oblivious to the fact that traffic with the right of way has braked to avoid an accident - but hey, that's OK they had their indicator on to rely on competent drivers to compensate for their lack of observation.

asbokid

creased-leach wrote: »

Am I just not seeing this because of the difficulties in "drawing" on here- or are you going straight over- in which case why are you in the RH lane?