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Doing the electrics myself?

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  • Igol
    Igol Posts: 434 Forumite
    Just a theoretical query, are you moving anytime soon and a going to need a silly bit of paper?
    Or could you (just thinking loud here) crack on with the job and if the need for a bit of paper arose in future, honestly claim that that was done years ago, "maybe 1999 I cant quite remember"?
  • wallbash
    wallbash Posts: 17,775 Forumite
    Igol please be careful of posting such ( theoretical ) advice, some might say you are encouraging bad practices. :rotfl:

    I really wish that I had thought of it before you did.



    ps, how long before the paid experts tell us we are wrong!
  • lindos90
    lindos90 Posts: 3,211 Forumite
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    Hi, Ive got a quick query thats sort of related to this, so I'll tag it on here instead of creating a new one.

    Planning to sell our house, when we moved in 8 years ago my husband did some electrical work similar to the OP, new sockets and the like before we had our kitchen fitted.

    Over the years he has also moved a couple of light switches.

    Now im really worried, what is this part P?

    He has a mate who is a qualified electrician, and he says he can come and test everything for £80 (says he usually charges £120) and give us something to that effest that we can give the buyer.

    Is this worth it? -he would only be testing the sockets though, as the wires are obviously in/behind the walls so he would not be able to see what type of wire (well except the end bits sticking out of the socket I guess, if he took them off) he would not be able to see how deep they are in the wall, or their route around the house.

    Any thoughts from you electrical guys?
  • wallbash
    wallbash Posts: 17,775 Forumite
    Any thoughts from you electrical guys?

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    Luckily not in that category, But sold house last year with out any 'paper work'
    either for windows or electrics , Solicitors were not 'keen' but buyers more sensible.

    Save your money , solve any problems IF they occur.
  • molerat
    molerat Posts: 34,541 Forumite
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    Now what can I do with my rolls of red and black 2.5mm TWE and my pre part P dated back boxes and sockets :confused::D
  • vaio
    vaio Posts: 12,287 Forumite
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    zax47 wrote: »
    And pay them a fee of between £125 and £300 depending on where you are in the country. They will want to see evidence of design and installation which complies with BS7671:2008 17th Edition wiring regulations. The work has to meet Part P of the building regulations which by definition means compliance with BS7671:2008 (as guidance for best practice). They will need to inspect first fix (before wires get hidden/plastered over etc.), second fix and all your test results for all the circuits installed/amended (IR, continuity, polarity, PFC etc.) but of course you will have a deep working knowledge of BS7671:2008, approved installation methods and all the necessary skills and (expensive and specialised) equipment to do the tests won't you. :D

    I wondered why I ever bothered to become an electrician sometimes!.........!

    I thought the building control fees included the testing
  • lagi
    lagi Posts: 590 Forumite
    molerat wrote: »
    Now what can I do with my rolls of red and black 2.5mm TWE and my pre part P dated back boxes and sockets :confused::D


    You would sell it. The older stuff sells for more than the new stuff, so people can add new wiring so it looks like it was installed previously.
  • zax47
    zax47 Posts: 1,263 Forumite
    lindos90 wrote: »
    Now I'm really worried, what is this part P?

    "Part P" of the Building regulations (Jan 2005) brought a lot of previously un-notifiable work (like electrical work) under the control of your Local Authority Building Control dept (LABC). It became mandatory for certain electrical work to be notified to your LABC (and comply with Part P) on June 1st 2008.

    More about how this impacts on the DIYer, and what you can/can't do without notifying LABC here;

    DIY Electrical Work and Part P

    He has a mate who is a qualified electrician, and he says he can come and test everything for £80 (says he usually charges £120) and give us something to that effest that we can give the buyer.

    Is this worth it? -he would only be testing the sockets though, as the wires are obviously in/behind the walls so he would not be able to see what type of wire (well except the end bits sticking out of the socket I guess, if he took them off) he would not be able to see how deep they are in the wall, or their route around the house.

    Any thoughts from you electrical guys?

    It's called a Periodic Inspection Report (PIR) and is of value if you are buying a property and want to know the state of the electrical installation and if you might need to spend money on making it safe. In your situation I wouldn't bother - you're moving out! It is recommended to have a PIR done every 10 years or on the change of owner or tenant, but few do. You don't need one to be able to sell your house.

    I wouldn't worry about Part P either, the work your husband did was well before it came into force (Jan 2005) or mandatory for compliance (June 2008) At the time he did the work he was perfectly entitled to.
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