Rail Travel: Tips on Cheap Tickets

geordie_taxi

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

If you want the ultimate flexibility then could I suggest an All line rover(14 days)

gr8 idea. expensive it might b. but all you have to do is note all the late trains ur on over the 2 weeks and there will be loads and then claim compo for it. nice little earner easily u will get back half ur money without trying

Jeff_Bridges_hair

geordie_taxi wrote: »

gr8 idea. expensive it might b. but all you have to do is note all the late trains ur on over the 2 weeks and there will be loads and then claim compo for it. nice little earner easily u will get back half ur money without trying

Shame you dont know what you are talking about.

Its not as simple as that with 'Rover' tickets. Delay repay works in a wholly different way for Rover tickets.

And they would be onto you in a flash if you put in that many claims and get done for fraud.

dzug1

geordie_taxi wrote: »

gr8 idea. expensive it might b. but all you have to do is note all the late trains ur on over the 2 weeks and there will be loads and then claim compo for it. nice little earner easily u will get back half ur money without trying

No there won't be 'loads' - 90% of trains run within 10 minutes of time and you have to be considerably later than 10 minutes to get compensation

It's several years since I've been late enough to claim. Maybe I've been lucky/unlucky

geordie_taxi

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

Shame you dont know what you are talking about.

Its not as simple as that with 'Rover' tickets. Delay repay works in a wholly different way for Rover tickets.

its u that doesnt know what hes talking about. wasnt hard to do a quick google search http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=49167 the blokes there know a lot more that you and they say it works the same.

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

And they would be onto you in a flash if you put in that many claims and get done for fraud.

pse dont misquote me i never said anything about fraud. and if all ur claims are for legit late trains it wudnt even be noticed

geordie_taxi

dzug1 wrote: »

No there won't be 'loads' - 90% of trains run within 10 minutes of time and you have to be considerably later than 10 minutes to get compensation

It's several years since I've been late enough to claim. Maybe I've been lucky/unlucky

is that a ruff guess or do u have a source for them figures either way 10% over 10 minutes is a lot of trains

and i was lucky the other day going to london. over 1 hour late compo to me i think :T

dzug1

The train companies publish their figures and they are usually within a % or so either way of that 90% which yes, is rough. Some lines/companies are better than others.

Still means that in two weeks of travelling you probably won't be delayed by long enough to claim

Jeff_Bridges_hair

geordie_taxi wrote: »

its u that doesnt know what hes talking about. wasnt hard to do a quick google search http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=49167 the blokes there know a lot more that you and they say it works the same.



pse dont misquote me i never said anything about fraud. and if all ur claims are for legit late trains it wudnt even be noticed

You really should read the thread first before posting it. Sample quotes from there

ATOC's John Horncastle said that compensation is not applicable to All Line Rovers (don't know about other Rovers), for some weird "pre-BR-era" reason. However, TOC's can use their discretion.

On calling around, most TOC's who use Delay Repay will give 1/10th of the ticket price for delays of over 1h, or 1/20th of the ticket price for delays between 30m and 59m.

TPE are a big exception, saying that they won't give any compensation whatsoever!

Virgin/FGW are two other big exceptions, in that they don't offer delay repay. Virgin has a measly compensation policy at the moment, but their Customer Relations department is quite generous. I'd imagine getting compensation levels similar to that of Delay Repay, but only for delays of over 1h.

Quote:Do TOCs keep records of payouts so that they can detect serial claimants?

Originally Posted by Smethwickian

Do TOCs keep records of payouts so that they can detect serial claimants?


Yes they do. Information can also be shared between TOCs to detect fraudulent claims. There have been a couple of cases which have resulted in successful prosecutions over the last year.

So they all vary on how they give compensation even though there isnt anything set in stone and there are some TOCs who do not offer delay repay. And you have no idea what I do or do not know.

And there are other threads on there where someone got 37p for a delayed train too. Gonna have to get a lot of those to make your 'half your money back' claim arent you.

And this link will show you that what Dzug2 stated is quite true - this is for the overall performance


so for the last 4 years PPM has been over 90% on the whole..

So what was it you were saying about people not knowing what they were on about?
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/about/performance/

geordie_taxi

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

You really should read the thread first before posting it. Sample quotes from there

i did read the thread and unlike u gave the link for others to read. u on the otherhand just did selective posting to aid ur arguement. well heres my side of the arguement from the same thread :cool:

See my claims from 2009 :
http://www.rail-britain.co.uk/wordpress/?page_id=517

You need to claim for each journey made
You may need to photocopy the ticket (to send with claim)
You may also need to send the seat reservation, to keep a copy for yourself
Once you have completed their Charter Claim form, keep a copy for yourself
Details for how they calculate the refund is included in their Charter
This is based on half the Open Return fare, between the points of that journey

Some services I used were delayed by up to 29 minutes, but you are unable to claim
Due to planning I did not miss any connections, I made one claim (just to see if they were willing to make a goodwill gesture) but it was rejected

A delay of between 30 and 59 minutes results in a goodwill gesture (based on the fare paid)

A delay of 60 minutes or more results in the full refund (as above, half the Open Return fare for a Rover)
When using the Caledonian Sleeper this is a substantial amount, and mine was £114 due to it being the Inverness - Euston, with a First Class ALR

and if u go to railbritains link the man says he got £270.50 back which i do believe is around 1/2 the price of his orginal ticket.:T witch aint 1/10 or 1/20 is it now

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

So what was it you were saying about people not knowing what they were on about?
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/about/performance/

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

crystal64

HELP! Birmingham to Glasgow 13th October after 5.00pm single fare can anyone help with different journey the cheapest fare I can get is £42.50 any route on train ok for changes thanks

dzug1

crystal64 wrote: »

HELP! Birmingham to Glasgow 13th October after 5.00pm single fare can anyone help with different journey the cheapest fare I can get is £42.50 any route on train ok for changes thanks

Try 1701 Birmingham to Crewe arr 1756 (£7 advance single)

1809 Crewe to Glasgow arr 2117 (£24 advance single)

If you'd rather not risk that connection the 1720 from Birmingham - which is the Glasgow train you land up on anyway - has a £14 advance single to Crewe - so still cheaper