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zippychick

cw18 wrote: »

Yes she did. Wasn't that the meal that he complained about lack of salt - and she had to admit she'd forgotten to add it to anything

I think you may be right! Well remembered!

r.a.i.n.b.o.w

Gigervamp wrote: »

In fact, it would be better if more people did eat (British) veal as it means that the male calves that are born to the dairy cows at least have a few months of life instead of being culled a few hours after birth.

Does (BRITISH) veal taste like beef?

I don't like the idea of wasting an animal just cos they are male...however! Is UK beef MEAT usually from dairy cows? I was under the impression our beef meat is from specially reared cows and (possibly castrated?) bulls??

Churchmouse

[QUOTE=r.a.i.n.b.o.w;24745277]Does (BRITISH) veal taste like beef?

I don't like the idea of wasting an animal just cos they are male...however! Is UK beef MEAT usually from dairy cows? I was under the impression our beef meat is from specially reared cows and (possibly castrated?) bulls??[/QUOTE]

I love rose veal ( the sort that is British:D) I'd say it tastes like a very mild beef. It's a soft textured, very tender meat, that requires minimal cooking otherwise it dries out. Having said that, I've just realised I usually buy escalopes as a special treat. I don't tend to use the mince or cubed veal for casseroles.

To my shame I don't really know what our beef meat is from I imagine it must be from specially reared cows or castrated bulls as you suggest Milking cows would be useless as meat, far too tough.

rosieben

purpleivy wrote: »

There are those that would argue that it isn't 'proper' camping! ..

my dd, dsil and dgd go camping in their trailer tent every chance they get, they live in Oz so the climate is kinder. they're so well kitted out that their friends call it 'glamping' last time she did mulled wine over the camp fire

r.a.i.n.b.o.w

cw18 wrote: »

Yep, but they start at 8:30 and have a shorter lunch break too. They do the same number of hours, just in a different arrangement.....

First trial of this was the year my elder son went into Y10 (I don't think it was Y11), so that would have been September 2003. The other secondary schools started with it a year or two later.

When I was at Secondary school (I left 20 years ago...OMG :eek: )...we started between 8:35am-8:55am (depending on your first lesson, what year your were in, etc), we had 2 x 15 min breaks (morn and aft), a 45-55 minute lunch (again, depending on your year/curriculum) and everyone finished at 3:25pm. I did a lot more hours in the 80s than my daughters did in the 00s!! PLUS I had a homework schedule of AT LEAST 90 minutes a day (compared to the 30-40 minutes my daughters had!).

I do feel teenagers at school have it VERY easy these days.
(Apart from the kids at the ADT near me, they have longer days and more projects etc to help them learn how to cope with proper work days when they leave school.)

cw18

r.a.i.n.b.o.w wrote: »

When I was at Secondary school (I left 20 years ago...OMG :eek: )...we started between 8:35am-8:55am (depending on your first lesson, what year your were in, etc), we had 2 x 15 min breaks (morn and aft), a 45-55 minute lunch (again, depending on your year/curriculum) and everyone finished at 3:25pm. I did a lot more hours in the 80s than my daughters did in the 00s!! PLUS I had a homework schedule of AT LEAST 90 minutes a day (compared to the 30-40 minutes my daughters had!).

Only 20 years? It's 27 years since I got my 'O' level results :rolleyes2

My homework of 90 mins/day (2.5hrs on a Friday for the weekend) was twice what my friends got - the only difference being I was at a private school and they were at the local comprehensives.

r.a.i.n.b.o.w

Olderbutnotwiser wrote: »

How ignorant! (is deliquency like delinquency? shouldn't wouldnt have had an apostrophe and surely much should have been many!) Sorry would not normally do that but :mad:
My three children attended a school that started at 08:00 and finished at 14:30, but they only had a half hour lunch break.
I guess I am just lucky that they are worthwhile members of society and make me so proud;)

SO...going back to the point of this discussion about school times...

If you were a working mum and wanted to drop your kids off/collect them early/late to fit in round your full time working hours, you would have had to drop them off at 7am-ish and collected them at 4pm-ish (or 6-7pm, if your employer won't allow flexitime), which is pretty unworkable for any 'primary carer' who works full time!

r.a.i.n.b.o.w

cw18 wrote: »

But the point we're making is that the number of hours in school HASN'T reduced. The children start earlier, and get a much reduced lunch break.....

The idea we were told is behind this, is that it's closer to the European times - and they seem to do better at school as the 'brain is more active early in the day' (or some such propoganda)

Which is pretty much baloney (not criticising you, just the *think tank*) as children are like small adults: some are early birds, some are 9-5, some are night owls. ME - I'm a night owl. I couldn't function at school (or work!) until after lunch, and then was pretty much "good to go" until about 3am. BUT society doesn't like that! :rolleyes:

r.a.i.n.b.o.w

r.a.i.n.b.o.w wrote: »

I just made the treacle tart from last week, but after an hour in the oven it's still runny - slightly burnt, but very runny.

What did I do wrong?

1am....and it's still runny, despite sitting on the side for 2 hours, and being refridgerated for 4 more...

The_Dragon

r.a.i.n.b.o.w wrote: »

1am....and it's still runny, despite sitting on the side for 2 hours, and being refridgerated for 4 more...

The only thing I can think is that your breadcrumb to treacle ratio was wrong - it sounds like too little breadcrumb (or over enthusiastic treacling!)