Jobseekers, advice

Clarec_2

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Not very good practice for the job market is it, walking out after two weeks and 'refusing' to do what was asked of you?

And how would it of been "Good Job Practise?" Have you ever had to go on any of those ridiculous courses? Look if you're not going to help then I suggest you go back to the hole you came from.

seven-day-weekend

I have not been on a course but my son and many people I know have.

It is good work experience because you have to be up and around and get to somewhere at a set time and carry out tasks that have been set. This is good experience for the workplace where you will have to do the same. Its about puctuality, priority and deadlines.

There is nothing wrong with working in a charity shop, it is all good experience for any other job.

And also surely it's better than NOT going on a course?

leopard_print

Clarec wrote: »

Hi, I'm in the same situation. I went on a 2 week New Deal course I did the full 2 weeks and absolutely hated it, I felt like a child. The people that were in my group all seemed like drug addicts the people that worked there did sod all but drink coffee and look down their noses at you..it was terrible. I found out that I would have to go on a 13 week one after that, so I just didn't sign on again. The thought of doing that for 13 weeks or more made me want to jump off a cliff! I left in May and need to sign back on soon..I just hope I don't get put on that vile New Deal again, it is awful.

Ah see i was lucky on the 2week course, met some great people, which i actually keep in touch with alot, and it helped a little, but bascially after we did our 'tasks' which took like 2hrs, rest of day was doing sod all, i did go back to see them aswell, and omg the people that was in there, i was glad i wasnt stuck with that group, they was awful.
Shame about your time on it though, guess i had one lucky thing happen lol, but yeah the 13 week is not my cup of tea, i want a job in child care or care of some sort, i have no desire to ever to shop work (not puttng my nose down on it) but its not my thing at all, my sis works in retail, but everyone is different, and we shudnt be forced to spend time with no so pleasant people (nice way of putting it) for 3months and stuck doing a job i dont want, will never do in the future anyway, so im just working for free for 'experience' in a job sector i dont want to work in. And the fact you spend all your time working, dont really get a chance for 'job search' so in 3months time im back to signing on every 2weeks, just a waste of time in my opinion, like i said everyone is different

And Clare, yeah i will let you know how i get on, if you got signed off in May like me lol, then sign back on soon, just make sure its over 13weeks, then apparently shudnt get put back on New deal to be put on them 'courses'

red_devil

yes you get placed for some work experience but all it is is an extra pair of hands for free for them you wont get taken on at the end of it!

The government would do much better to put some money into some real training.

red_devil

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I have not been on a course but my son and many people I know have.

It is good work experience because you have to be up and around and get to somewhere at a set time and carry out tasks that have been set. This is good experience for the workplace where you will have to do the same. Its about puctuality, priority and deadlines.

There is nothing wrong with working in a charity shop, it is all good experience for any other job.

And also surely it's better than NOT going on a course?

New Deal is just a way of fiddling the figures its all been said before on here. It also offers you nothing you cant do yourself and the work experience is slave labour.

Anyone can apply to work in a charity shop if they want and they dont have the stigma of doing it through a New Deal if they do it independently.

Personally I think the New Deal should be scrapped and the gvt should come up with something better if they must come up with anything at all.

seven-day-weekend

I am not saying New Deal is perfect but it still enables long-term unemployed to get much-needed work experience and that in my book is preferable to doing nothing.

It's not slave labour, it is FREE work experience. And it does not have to be charity shops (although why that is a problem for people I have no idea).

Working experience and gaining skills such as punctuality, politeness and professionalism can be gained in any job and then transferred when you eventually get a job of your choosing.

red_devil

Clarec wrote: »

Hi, I'm in the same situation. I went on a 2 week New Deal course I did the full 2 weeks and absolutely hated it, I felt like a child. The people that were in my group all seemed like drug addicts

Well said its disgusting everybody is lumped together regardless of age, class, background, you have to sit with people you have nothing in common with. They might smell, they might be on drugs but what does anyone care there. You must stay or you'll lose your benefit if that isnt bullying what is?

A woman can be put in a group with all men who swear and look at !!!!!! on their phones. Nobody wants to be there. Everyone moans or tries to scive off or using the computer to surf the internet and its not jobseeking.

Its time the Mp's visited these New Deal schemes I wonder how long they would last:cool:

red_devil

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I am not saying New Deal is perfect but it still enables long-term unemployed to get much-needed work experience and that in my book is preferable to doing nothing.



So you would like to sit in a classroom with people who were on drugs and who were swearing etc see my post why dont you try it?

Its an extremely unpleasant enviroment and its not preferable to doing nothing. People should not be forced into that its deplorable and it will do nothing to get people into work.

The gvt must come up with something better. The whole thing is a farce.

seven-day-weekend

No I would not like to sit in a classroom with people on drugs etc., of course I wouldn't. It is unfortunate that this is the case. I'm not saying things can't be improved.

But I also don't see how just 'walking out' and 'refusing' to do as they are asked as the OP mentions, is helping to further their employment prospects either.

leopard_print

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

No I would not like to sit in a classroom with people on drugs etc., of course I wouldn't. It is unfortunate that this is the case. I'm not saying things can't be improved.

But I also don't see how just 'walking out' and 'refusing' to do as they are asked as the OP mentions, is helping to further their employment prospects either.

Things need to be greatly improved, its a joke and its not being stuck up or anything, just stuck with people on drugs and yes, people who STINK of everything you could think of, and having to make conversation to be polite and here all there life stories Zzz ,thats the 13weeks bascially being 'trained' by people who need training themselves, the woman i had was to put it nicely, a bit dim, didnt know what the hell she was doing and to put the boot in, when they start off about A4E, they talk about the founder of the company and how she is a millionaire, what the hell??? Like we want to hear about that!