Dealing with Bailiffs Harassment

RobertoMoir

rickbonar wrote: »

I remember a case some years ago where bailiffs seized a motor vehicle and the owner used his remote vehicle key to lock the doors and immobilise the car and then shot dead the bailiffs from outside.

However I can't find any reference to this on the internet though I think it was in Bristol somewhere.... perhaps someone here knows more details?

Now it has been said that if a bailiff got in through an unlocked door you could take it as a burglary and taking steps to protect your property by using necessary force sadly and regretably fatally wound the bailiff.

What happens in this instance?

You'd quickly find out that the courts would regard that as a stupid idea, and that they'd regard you as a foolish person for having tried it, and your reward would be a long stay in prison. You'd be on dicey enough ground trying that with an actual burglar, by the way.

You should probably limit your advice about bailiffs to people who actually know something about bailiffs rather than some tool who once said something on a random website or your local pub or whatever.

fimonkey

Lol at RobertoMoir!

BTW I helped a flatmate deal with a bailiff/DC who was chasing for unpaid council tax (which he was already paying back thanks to advice from this website, and was also NOT paying extra DCA fee's (again thanks to this website) but the DCA were not letting up. We got out flatmate to get a solicitor to sign a letter saying he owned nothing of value (which was true, flat was rented furnished etc).

We sent this letter to the DCA who of course ignored it. When the bailiff next turned up I went out of the back door (which housemate locked behind me) and met bailiff at the front door. I tied to give him the letter he refused and went back to his car. I followed him, and when he sat inside the car I gave it to him again and said very loudly (shouted in fact) DELIVERED BY HAND. He shouted back at me about how I wasn't allowed to touch his personal possessions, took the letter, tore it up and threw it in bits on the floor. ... only then did I point out my flatmate filming EVERYTHING from the flat window!! (which was the only reason I was so confident in the face of his bullying).

So GOOOD to have the last laugh on a bailiff, he drive away at speed and very unhappy (and we were never bothered again).

rickbonar

worried_about_bailiffs wrote: »

Hi. First time here, sorry if this is the wrong place to post.

Bailiffs have been round before for my girlfriend who owed £200 on council tax for a previous property. She let them in and signed an agreement as she wanted to pay.

I have now got a letter from them about a different council tax debt, that I wasn't aware of, and they say they are coming to remove my goods tomorrow (22/6/12).

As they've been let into the property before, although for a different debt, I'm concerned that they can now break in to remove goods and the letter, although not specifically saying that is what they will do, does imply it.

Can anyone offer any advice? I'm particularly worried because it doesn't give me any time to sort it out.

Thanks

It's now the 25th and I would like to know what happened?

I don't think they can break in as it's not the same debt but with these unpleasant characters you never know ... and I don't think they have much regard to the letter of the law when it comes to what they do.

As for protecting your own property ... I would do whatever is necessary to neutralise the threat! and I think it should be everyone's duty to do so, as these people are often worse than common robbers.
In fact you may just see me in the papers very soon;)

rickbonar

Just another note: .. traffic wardens regularly get attacked and beaten up but the government seems to have a block on newspapers reporting it.

Surely these bailiffs must have the same problems? ... and yes I'm aware they're big heavy gentlemen..... but even the biggest gorilla, elephant or rhino can be easily taken down by a weak old codger with a shotgun defending himself against an attack. Remember Tony Martin?

vax2002

You dont need to take them down, a couple of frail old godgers on you tube will show you how to deal with big mouthed shouty bailiffs.
they say they have a liability order, so exercise your right to have it served by The bailiff, but as they never actually have a real one, after 20 minutes of shouting threats about smashing doors in and beating people up, away they go with tails between legs .
A bailiff is only a bailiff with a court order which you can ask to be served.
If they dont have one, you dont have to let them in !

rickbonar

RobertoMoir wrote: »

You'd quickly find out that the courts would regard that as a stupid idea, and that they'd regard you as a foolish person for having tried it, and your reward would be a long stay in prison. You'd be on dicey enough ground trying that with an actual burglar, by the way.

You should probably limit your advice about bailiffs to people who actually know something about bailiffs rather than some tool who once said something on a random website or your local pub or whatever.

I don't know that they would sentence someone to prison for a long time .. my goodness me if the killers of baby P can get just 5 years and "asylum seekers" with no driving licences that kill children on the roads get just four months in prison.

Assuming you are Caucasian and not following an alien religion I suppose it could happen in our topsy turvy British judicial system.

fimonkey

vax2002 wrote: »

You dont need to take them down, a couple of frail old godgers on you tube will show you how to deal with big mouthed shouty bailiffs.
they say they have a liability order, so exercise your right to have it served by The bailiff, but as they never actually have a real one, after 20 minutes of shouting threats about smashing doors in and beating people up, away they go with tails between legs .
A bailiff is only a bailiff with a court order which you can ask to be served.
If they dont have one, you dont have to let them in !

Have you got the links? I typed in bailiffs to u tube but nothing like you say - would like to see it.

rickbonar

I think he means this one in the link below titled : How not to do business with bailiffs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yZRtrPLDaI&feature=related

sajeel

just read the whole 10 pages, some excellent info, always interested on learning new info ever since i had problems with bailiffs on parking fine dispute.

:j

Adenuff

My Partner lost court battle with builder over money we owed for extension he never fully finished, I won't go into all that now but basically although we have little equity in house he got a charge. We set up a payment plan with him but my partner lost his job a few months ago so we wrote to him and other creditors to ask if we could reduce amount until he was employed again. We didn't hear from him but got letter from county court for hearing. Saw him there he never said a thing except why didn't you tell me, to which my partner told him he had written. Next day bailiff at the door demanding the whole sum plus another couple of grand!! Read up lots on here about not having to let them in etc which is great but we have one of those small porches. When we answered the door he was outside and didn't step in to it but he may have before we opened our outside door so I'm now worried when he comes back in 7 days he'll say he did come into that so has right to force entry. Also our car which I use to deliver my cake orders in and is registered in my name, he took a levy of!? Even though he was showed registration cert. We have never dealt with bailiffs before and didn't know it was going to happen so worried what might happen now. Please help.