Alcohol self help thread II

beer2006

CBT! :eek:

I presume we are talking different CBT......


Just got in and I can't really take in all the stuff written today, but I was only thinking yesterday what a load of problem ridden people we all are and I don't just mean the alcohol problems, I mean all the mental stuff as well. Is there anyone who becomes an alcoholic who doesn't have panic attacks or things like that?

feelinggood_2

No, I am just interested in wether Lewt likes that sort of thing

beer2006

Ahhh OK (how do you know that?)

feelinggood_2

I know everything don't ya know Quite knowledgable in the whole M/s scene

Al_Mac

Do we have mental "problems" because of, in spite of or as well as alcohol problems.

Chicken and egg

lewt

feelinggood wrote:

Have you ever had counselling or CBT?

councilling yes, the standerd hour a week from the local alcohol and drug agengices. till i thought i was cured and went back out there. only to have to wait 3 months to get back in. did that about 3 times. disgused eerything there. but to be fair to them what could they do? they could'nt stop me being an alcohoic. i remember one chap said "just have enough to make yourself "ok".." that was a green light for me. then once i'd had the first that was it away i'd go. physical alergery. then i had the drinks dairy. green light again. and the shock threapy about what damage i was doing to my liver, kidneys and so on.

dont know what CBT is? controlled behavoir thrapy?

rnign all.... im felling good today had a wicked meeting last night. good share and all that. how's every1 else? *goes off to read rest of last night's posts*

jayne.doe

Hi everyone. Well i had a `different` journey down by train. I was fine until Birmingham. I had a window seat with the table in front then this guy and woman sat down. Guy beside me. I had my mp3 player on, not at all loud. So we are pulling out of New St when Mr Pompous beside me decides as we are in the quiet zone i shouldnt have my mp3 player on. He nudges me, and points to the quiet zone sign. So i said `yes` and he goes on about not playing music in the quiet zone, albeit really quietly and he couldnt hear.So i said i have been on this train for an hour and a half and no-one has said anything. So he said `i am` so i told him he needed to move then. I pointed out loads of free places to park his fat !!!!, but he wouldnt go. So i said im not turning it off and you will just have to call the conductor if you are unhappy. I actually just was about to turn it off before he got on coz i wanted to read my book. Now as a matter of principle i couldn`t. He didnt call the conductor and when he showed his ticket i noted the station where he was getting off. Anyway this woman opposite me started to eat crisps she was noisey and i thought he looked really cross. Then the woman in the other window st changed her babies nappy, it was a bit bad and i thought he was going to explode. She then got her boob out and started to breastfeed her child. He looked major uncomftable. I actually started to feel sorry for him. (not a lot tho). Five minutes before we got to his station i folded my mps 3 player away, and started to read my book. I think this really peed him off.

Then the woman opposite said what a nasty guy he was and proceeded to tell me her life story for an hour and a half. No matter where i travel, how i travel, someone has to tell me their life story. I must have that sort of face.
Actually she was really interesting but her story was also really sad and depressing:(. She got off and i got lost in my book.

All of a sudden i look up and theres no-one else in the carriage as its late and this guy is staring at me. I really did panic. He was sat on the other table seat opposite and he was sat sideways. He never said a word. I start fumbling through my bag looking for my phone to ring o/h (god knows what i think he can do!!). I have visions of tommorrows headlines in our local evening post:`LOCAL WOMAN MURDERED ON TRAIN VISITING ELDERLY PARENTS`. Anyway he says you wont get a signal for another couple of miles, i thought this was a bit sinister. He turns out to be a really nice railway worker who just wanted a chat. Just a little bit insensitive to women traveling on their own alone at night.:(

Then we get to the Tamar bridge the stuff my childhood nightmares were made up of and its dark and i didnt see it coming up. We are on the bridge and i can see the iron of the bridge and the water below. I have a phobia for heights and going over bridges with water under them. I always think this time we are all going to fall off and die!!:) So i decided to ring my sister who thinks i am mad anyway. Next time i am going by coach!!!!!:):rolleyes:

lewt

Al_Mac wrote:

Do we have mental "problems" because of, in spite of or as well as alcohol problems.

Chicken and egg

Good question Al, i think alcoholicism is a the root of most of my troubles or "problems" not just he drinking part but also the spirtual part of the illness which as i understand it is restless irrtable and discontent, which i was well before i picked up a drink. and the drink relived that in the good times (sometimes)

I used to sit and wonder what was wrong with me saying to my self am i physcotic? schitz? or physco? if an illness came on the tele you can bet i was thinking i had it. then i had the illness of alcoholism explained to me and it was like " THAT'S IT!" THAT S WHAT I HAVE! it was a relif! espeacially as the person that told me told me i could relive that on a daily basis....


so thats what i do,

beer2006

Blimey Jayne, you are mad

Al, I think its the problems come first, the drink swallows the problems, the drink takes over and problems come back worse.
Thats for me of course, I wonder how many others?

jayne.doe

Yes, me too definately problems were always there first, and i drank to cope with them, and then the problems were back worse as i became more paranoid over them, worrying more about them if that makes sense:) I have been really good with my drinking, so good i went to bed at 9pm last night rather than drink any more and show myself up. Of course i was awake and ready to go this morning at 4am:).