Human waste coming through kitchen sink landlord still wants rent money

vexd_2

real1314 wrote: »

Why are you SO angry now, when it has been fixed? You seem to have missed the boat. I suspect you're angry at yourself and now it's been sorted still want to be angry :mad::mad::mad:

What do you expect from a "deep clean" - they can't get deep into the metal that the sink is made from - bleach will do the trick easily - it's not really an industrial job.
How do you think parents deal with terry nappies from little babies bums that are full of poo-poo?

You seem to be wanting to vent and not listening to the replies.

I am listening to replies, i was angry at people not being able to grasp the situation as well as the ll still wanting rent for said time.

The flow from the shower was going outside and then due to a blockage was coming back up and mixing with the toilet system. i am not a plumber so i do not know the total ins ands outs.

thank you everyone who has tried to help in a positive way.

Welshwoofs

vexd wrote: »

welshwoof it was water from the toilet with visiable toilet paper and poo.
that it why im angry.

That sounds totally bizarre! Our waste pipe is completely separate from all other pipes and goes directly into the main drain. The water from sinks etc exits into the main drain from a completely different pipe. Wouldn't it be a case of there being a blockage in the main drain outside if toilet waste is coming back up sinks etc?

If it was a case of direct 'toilet matter' coming up through the sinks I'd have moved out when it started happening until it was sorted out. If you stayed there throughout I'd think it'd be hard to get a retrospective reduction on rent wouldn't it?

Now the core issue is sorted though, I'd get on and clean and charge on the costs of materials.

not_loaded

real1314 wrote: »

…How do you think parents deal with terry nappies from little babies bums that are full of poo-poo?
You seem to be wanting to vent and not listening to the replies.

Quite!

I wasn’t being patronising, just realistic in this situation. Life is too short for continuing rants like this.

Bleach and disinfectant IS a ‘positive way’ in the circumstances.

If the biggest problem I’d ever had to deal with in life was a pooey sink, I’d be deliriously happy. As it is, I have to put up with just being reasonably happy.

franklee

Yet again landlords prove a law unto themselves. Odd that on a consumer website such as this there is reams of help for saving a few pence here and there when sold a defective service. Yet tenants are supposed to lump it. Three months with waste water coming up through the kitchen sink isn't acceptable. If it happened when anyone here had rented a holiday let would they accept having to still pay full price? Why should a tenant, unlike any other consumer, pay full price for a defective service? Maybe the next person to complain about a wrong council tax banding or an unfair bank charge should be pointed to Oxfam and told to "get over it…" or told if it's the only thing they have to worry about they should be happy, yet somehow that just doesn't happen does it ...

franklee

real1314 wrote: »

How do you think parents deal with terry nappies from little babies bums that are full of poo-poo?

With nappies you are flushing the poo down the sink and not usually at the time when you are trying to prepare food or wash up. Geez you guys can really cook in a kitchen with waste water and solid excrement backing up in the kitchen sink

Bleaching the sink up afterwards is not problem, but the sewage will presumably have gone up the sink overflow which is harder to clean.

The issue to me is having to live with it for three months, co-ordinating showers not to mix with cooking and having to bleach up every day.

Besides if the sink is backing up how can you drain away the washing up water/ shower waste water and sewage? That alone renders the sink useless for the three months it took to fix. Still the old tenant should pay full price eh?

silvercar

vexd wrote: »

The flow from the shower was going outside and then due to a blockage was coming back up and mixing with the toilet system. i am not a plumber so i do not know the total ins ands outs.

Hope the source of the blockage was identified to stop a repeat.

franklee

Welshwoofs wrote: »

If it was a case of direct 'toilet matter' coming up through the sinks I'd have moved out when it started happening until it was sorted out. If you stayed there throughout I'd think it'd be hard to get a retrospective reduction on rent wouldn't it?

The OP posted that he did stay elsewhere (arrow head takes you back to quoted post):

Post #1:

vexd wrote: »

I have been staying elsewhere in the meantime.

And this read to me like 'toilet matter':

Post #1:

vexd wrote: »

at this point now may/june ish, human waste was visabily coming up thru the sink.

not_loaded

franklee wrote: »

With nappies you are flushing the poo down the sink…

No, you do not do that! Please tell me you’re theorising here and will find out the proper way to do things like this before having kids.

franklee wrote: »

…Bleaching the sink up afterwards is not problem…

Glad to hear we’re all agreed it is NOT a problem.

franklee wrote: »

…Still the old tenant should pay full price eh?

If you want to get your LL involved in sorting out any problems on any occasion, yes, you should continue to pay your contracted amount.

OP wants to come on here and have everybody say: “there there, cuddle cuddle, yes you are entitled to a whole new sink and lots of money”.

Well, some have cuddled up and some haven’t. It’s the MSE spectrum of opinions. Next time set up a poll.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Raw sewage in a kitchen sink is unacceptable, and so is having to stay elsewhere while it was sorted, but why wasn't this raised at the time it became an issue? It weakesns your position to start arguing for reduction/compensation retrospectively.

You need to be clear about what you mean by a "deep clean" and how you think this will be fundamentally different to having a thorough scouring with bleach (for which you'd be perfectly entitled to claim costs from your LL).

Welshwoofs

franklee wrote: »

The OP posted that he did stay elsewhere (arrow head takes you back to quoted post):

Post #1:

That I didn't see I confess. Well I'd want to withhold the cost of that accommodation from the rent - but I'd have thought it would have been wise to broach that matter at the time it was happening as well rather than leave it.

And this read to me like 'toilet matter':

Post #1:

That I did read but as it was initially mentioned that it was a shower causing the over-flow into the sink I thought that perhaps Op was being a little dramatic in disecting the particular make-up of 'used' shower water