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Why we are nowhere near the bottom yet. Quite simple really (again)

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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Where are they rising? And dont say Aberdeen. Choose a real place.
    :D

    Aberdeen. Edinburgh. Glasgow. Dundee. (even dundee !!!!!!)

    And outside of Scotland I have no idea, but Nationwide obviously does.

    Nationwide average monthly house prices:

    Feb-09 £147,746
    Mar-09 £150,946
    Apr-09 £151,861
    May-09 £154,016
    Jun-09 £156,442
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Dan:_4
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    Where are they rising? And dont say Aberdeen. Choose a real place.

    East midlands

    Yorkshire

    East Anglia

    South East

    London

    Wales

    Scotland

    - Read the Nationwide Q2 press release
  • chucky
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    Where are they rising? And dont say Aberdeen. Choose a real place.

    specifically North Tyneside and Wakefield amongst others.
    there are more regionalised areas too not just metropolitan districts.

    the general trend is that most areas seem to have flattened out since Jan/Feb this year according to the Land Registry.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    chucky wrote: »
    specifically North Tyneside and Wakefield amongst others.
    there are more regionalised areas too not just metropolitan districts.
    .

    :D

    Ruggedtoast just got burned.......
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • ruggedtoast
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    :D

    Aberdeen. Edinburgh. Glasgow. Dundee. (even dundee !!!!!!)

    And outside of Scotland I have no idea, but Nationwide obviously does.

    Nationwide average monthly house prices:

    Feb-09 £147,746
    Mar-09 £150,946
    Apr-09 £151,861
    May-09 £154,016
    Jun-09 £156,442

    Oh right. Nationwide.

    I was going by the LR stats. I believe these are generally considered reliable no.
    Land Registry's House Price Index is the most accurate independent house price index available. Using our data set of completed sales, it is the only index based on repeat sales. It includes figures at national, regional, county and London borough level.

    I can see a few bits of Wales that are up, maybe its a celtic revival.
  • ruggedtoast
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    :D

    Ruggedtoast just got burned.......

    Yeah, great input from you as usual. Really adds to the debate.
  • Dan:_4
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    Oh right. Nationwide.

    I was going by the LR stats. I believe these are generally considered reliable no.



    I can see a few bits of Wales that are up, maybe its a celtic revival.

    Haha - This is classic stuff - Nationwide is suddenly unreliable !
  • andykn
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    And as evidence you offer an article by an editor of moneyweek????

    Alrighty then......:rotfl:

    My g/f gets Moneyweek, it's securities' analysis is excellent. On the housing market it did an article that purported to show that renting was better than buying over 25 years.

    Somerset Merryn-Webb, the previous editor, sold to rent too early.

    Whilst the market may fall further, this article has some faulty reasoning.

    Just because house prices are expensive by historical standards is not itself a reason they must go down, they were just as overpriced in 2005.

    Unemployment does not necessarily equal bad [mortgage] debts; mortgage interest is paid by benefits.

    House prices will fall because mortgages are more expensive because house prices will fall, is a circular argument.

    By implication PWC don't think prices will fall this year or 2011.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Dan: wrote: »
    Haha - This is classic stuff - Nationwide is suddenly unreliable !

    Swerve, distract, obfuscate, throw in an ad hominem attack, and then question the data.......

    Repeat mantra of "houses are too expensive for me, so they MUST come down."

    Rinse and repeat.

    Welcome to a bear thread.;)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    andykn wrote: »

    Somerset Merryn-Webb, the previous editor, sold to rent too early.

    .

    :D Yes she did. And then spent ages trying to talk the market down to cover her financial mistake. Oooops.

    But at least she's buying back in now.;)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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