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Blow for sickness benefit claimants

donaldtramp
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Financial Times.....
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0ad4da1c-6f2b-11de-9109-00144feabdc0.html
More than two-thirds of applicants for sickness benefits are being rejected under a new testing regime, casting doubt on the validity of 2.6m existing claimants deemed unfit for work.
According to data seen by several welfare industry figures, up to 90 per cent of applicants are being judged able to work in some regions and placed on unemployment rolls rather than long-term ill-health benefits.
The results, yet to be officially confirmed, offer an incoming government next year the chance to cut a £175bn budget deficit by forcing the long-term sick to seek work. A three-year programme starting in 2010 will subject 2.6m incapacity benefit claimants to the new work capability assessment.
Every person returning to work would reduce the £12.5bn total bill of incapacity benefit and start to pay some income tax and national insurance.
Initial results from the new test imply the bar for sickness benefits is at its highest level for decades. About 65 per cent of applications for incapacity benefit were approved until it was replaced last autumn – suggesting the chances of passing and failing have been reversed under the new ill-health benefit, the “employment and support allowance”.
The unofficial test results are the first strong sign the latest reforms are having a big impact, at least in terms of how new benefit claimants are classified.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0ad4da1c-6f2b-11de-9109-00144feabdc0.html
Overshadowing all these policy issues is a political dilemma, which some see as the root cause of Britain’s sickness benefit problems. The number of incapacity benefit claims ballooned from 700,000 in the 1970s to 2.6m today, in part because it was politically convenient to remove people from the unemployment roll.
Went up from 700,000 to 2.6 MILLION?
Under the new test, up to 90% are judged fit too work. Whereas 65% were approved before the test came in!!
Politically easier to keep the underclass quiet than dealing with it Eh?
Glad to see change sweeping through. Lets get these wasters out and trying to provide for themselves.
What has all of this done to Britains financial standing?
I hate to think how many wasters have been living off our tax in the last wasted decade though....
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0ad4da1c-6f2b-11de-9109-00144feabdc0.html
More than two-thirds of applicants for sickness benefits are being rejected under a new testing regime, casting doubt on the validity of 2.6m existing claimants deemed unfit for work.
According to data seen by several welfare industry figures, up to 90 per cent of applicants are being judged able to work in some regions and placed on unemployment rolls rather than long-term ill-health benefits.
The results, yet to be officially confirmed, offer an incoming government next year the chance to cut a £175bn budget deficit by forcing the long-term sick to seek work. A three-year programme starting in 2010 will subject 2.6m incapacity benefit claimants to the new work capability assessment.
Every person returning to work would reduce the £12.5bn total bill of incapacity benefit and start to pay some income tax and national insurance.
Initial results from the new test imply the bar for sickness benefits is at its highest level for decades. About 65 per cent of applications for incapacity benefit were approved until it was replaced last autumn – suggesting the chances of passing and failing have been reversed under the new ill-health benefit, the “employment and support allowance”.
The unofficial test results are the first strong sign the latest reforms are having a big impact, at least in terms of how new benefit claimants are classified.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0ad4da1c-6f2b-11de-9109-00144feabdc0.html
Overshadowing all these policy issues is a political dilemma, which some see as the root cause of Britain’s sickness benefit problems. The number of incapacity benefit claims ballooned from 700,000 in the 1970s to 2.6m today, in part because it was politically convenient to remove people from the unemployment roll.
Went up from 700,000 to 2.6 MILLION?
Under the new test, up to 90% are judged fit too work. Whereas 65% were approved before the test came in!!
Politically easier to keep the underclass quiet than dealing with it Eh?
Glad to see change sweeping through. Lets get these wasters out and trying to provide for themselves.
What has all of this done to Britains financial standing?
I hate to think how many wasters have been living off our tax in the last wasted decade though....
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donaldtramp wrote: »
Glad to see change sweeping through. Lets get these wasters out and trying to provide for themselves.
:T:T:T:T
Absolutely.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
It's bad news for those who claim but could work.
Probably good news for the genuine people who really need the help. About time!“I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse0 -
and where will the jobs magic themselves from.....expect lots of more crime..It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.0 -
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yes because people who are ill will get caught up in this mess and they deserve not to be caught up in it...imagine some one having a good day when they go for a assessment ect ect..
plus i really fear crime when the plebs find out it is game over...It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.0 -
yes because people who are ill will get caught up in this mess and they deserve not to be caught up in it...imagine some one having a good day when they go for a assessment ect ect..
plus i really fear crime when the plebs find out it is game over...
Heh heh, we can smell your fear already. Whens your next benefits evaluation?;)“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
hamish i am just over the threshold by 740k ..how is your negative equity going...It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.0 -
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hamish i am just over the threshold by 740k ..how is your negative equity going...
LOL, the numbers change all the time with you. No consistency. Thats the problem with you make believe artists, you keep forgetting what you said before.
Priceless.
What will you do if you have to get a job instead of posting doom and gloom all day every day.
BTW, still wating for the answer on QE.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
hamish ..look through all my posts ...retired at a lovely age ....took 10k off the amount because you are allowed it you fool.. how much neg equ now???It is nice to see the value of your house going up'' Why ?
Unless you are planning to sell up and not live anywhere, I can;t see the advantage.
If you are planning to upsize the new house will cost more.
If you are planning to downsize your new house will cost more than it should
If you are trying to buy your first house its almost impossible.0
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