2 police dogs die in hot car

mrcol1000

hethmar wrote: »

Should we have stupid people making stupid mistakes in our police force though?

Even a low life would know you DONT leave a living creature in a metal box when its the hottest day of the year.

What sort of entrance exams do they have now - the few Ive met recently seemed like they would have difficulty getting through a GCSE let alone becoming a defender of the society.

Every job has idiots. My workplace has several. Blame the unions, they make it impossible to sack any of these people.

hethmar

But I dare say your workmates arent in a position where they are supposedly protecting the public.

mrcol1000

hethmar wrote: »

But I dare say your workmates arent in a position where they are supposedly protecting the public.

Sadly they are. Thankfully not quite to the same extent as the police

marshallka

picklepick wrote: »

Heat stroke is incredibly dangerous and if not treated immediately can lead to death very quickly.

See this thread for some more tips and info on avoiding it and what to do if your dog shows the symptoms
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1785641

I thought today was cooler to take my border but he has just suffered a convulsion when we got home (took him at 7.ish this evening). He is very hyper anyway and was normal when we were walking but upon getting to the gate he just began to wobble and then spin around, eyes bulging and it was only from remembering what I had read on here that I realised what had happened. My daughter was with me and i got her out of the way quickly and got water over him and although he could not stand we managed to get him to drink. He seems ok now but I really thought we had lost him. I am keeping an eye on him and he has cooled down now and stopped panting but he has never fitted before. I have rang the vets and they say they think he should be ok as we did all the right things quick. I think we caught him in time. He is now breathing better and is sitting here by a fan. I may take him tomorrow to give him a check up but at the moment he needs to be calm.

I will not be taking him again for a few days and I know that is not good but neither is killing him with heat exhaustion. He is the same in the garden. He just does not know when to stop. I cannot believe the things that are happening just of late with my dog. I feel jinxed to be honest. Does anyone know if there is any lasting damage from heat exhaustion? I have checked his gums for colour and he is alert now and is walking fine and has drank loads and feels a lot cooler. We put the wet towels on the floor after reading that they can produce a sauna effect if you put them over them.

picklepick

Oh my marshalka well done for remembering what to do you might have saved his life. Poor little lad. I'd take him to the vets tomorrow yes. Not sure what lasting damage if any is caused, i should think he'll be fine though. The best place for getting cool water or a wet towel to is the groin area. Theres lots of blood vessels there and will help to lower the temp more quickly so you're doing the right thin by having him lie on a wet towel. Im just glad that hes ok now

marshallka

picklepick wrote: »

Oh my marshalka well done for remembering what to do you might have saved his life. Poor little lad. I'd take him to the vets tomorrow yes. Not sure what lasting damage if any is caused, i should think he'll be fine though. The best place for getting cool water or a wet towel to is the groin area. Theres lots of blood vessels there and will help to lower the temp more quickly so you're doing the right thin by having him lie on a wet towel. Im just glad that hes ok now

I was trying to find the thread that was on here some months ago about someones dog that had done similar. I said to my husband (in a right panic) "quick hes having a heart attack" cause that was my first thought and he said "I don't know what to do" and it was then that i remembered someone posting about the spinning around and appearing drunk. I then got the water and splashed him all over and although he could not stand up I got some to his gums and lips and he perked a little and then being a border he tried to walk again. By then we had the towels and at first did put them over him (thinking we were doing it right) but then after reading on the net we wet them and left them on the floor. Its been about 1 hour and 15 mins he has been fine. He is lying under the ceiling fan and his breathing is great now but it was very scary. I got my child away as I thought he may turn nasty but he did not. In fact even when he was falling he was still wagging like mad. thanks for posting back. I had seen him watch all the other dogs go past and i thought he would be ok. Obviously will not be doing it again. Just rainy walks from now on.

picklepick

I have read that dogs that have overheated once are more likely to in future but im not sure how correct that is. Best to ask these questions at the vets tomorrow

marshallka

picklepick wrote: »

I have read that dogs that have overheated once are more likely to in future but im not sure how correct that is. Best to ask these questions at the vets tomorrow

I have just told my hubby that one as I read it on the border collie forum.

He has yet to wee all the water out and he does have problems with this in hot weather. Usually he will just stand up and it comes out like a shower. I have just let him out hoping he can do one now cause it is one time when he cannot help doing it in the house. He has no control in this weather. I will have to just keep putting him out every 15 mins in hope. I will certainly ask tomorrow at our vets about his susceptability to future attacks. I have to bring him in from the garden as he plays chasing flies in it until he collapses (not literally like he has tonight though). I think a border will often work themselves to death. They just cannot take it easy. I will post back tomorrow but its going to be a long night. I just hope he is OK. Thanks again for posting back.

catkins

chez22 wrote: »

That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.

I have a dog whose breed is meant to be one of the dimmest (well according to the so called experts!) and I have trained to him to do his business on command. Most of the time I have no reason to get him to do so but when it is pouring with rain and he is just getting a quick walk to do his business I use it. If a so called "dim" dog can manage this I am sure a police dog can

chez22

catkins wrote: »

I have a dog whose breed is meant to be one of the dimmest (well according to the so called experts!) and I have trained to him to do his business on command. Most of the time I have no reason to get him to do so but when it is pouring with rain and he is just getting a quick walk to do his business I use it. If a so called "dim" dog can manage this I am sure a police dog can

I did not say a police dog could not be trained to do this, but the fact is they aren't. All police forces use the same training manual to train their dogs, and unlike most people on here I have actually read it. I have also participated in and witnessed police dog training for over 10 years. One poster also suggested police dogs are trained to eat/stop eating on command. Exactly what purpose does this serve? If I tried to remove food from some of the dogs I look after while they were eating a swift visit to casualty would ensue. It's rather ironic I have been accused of posting on a topic I 'know so little about' when clearly others on here have no experience or knowledge of police dog training.