Bulls & Bears -What's the difference?

SingleSue

As said above, I was/am bearish but don't have a degree although I am doing one currently.

I was though, very successful in my career, was a higher level tax payer and had reached a high level in the company before circumstances decided to play a part.

So I don't think you can classify bulls or bears by education or financial worth, there will always be exceptions on either side.

geoffky

I am a uber bear but as soon as the market signals to me the change i will become bullish but i do not expect this to be within four years..

Hair_Bear

Don't mess with the bears if you know what's good for you.

Really2

Hair_Bear wrote: »

Don't mess with the bears if you know what's good for you.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Quality.


I miss dopester (still notice he logs on) !!!!!! etc, all the ones with brains and points of view which made me think and evaluate my stance.

This is all slightly embarrassing.(and I am sure why some of the bears left)

Bears = negative outlook but back it up
Bulls = positive outlook but back it up
Both are usually open to views and debate.

Every one else are just a sheep who can not even think for themselves never mind make a valid point (except people like Sue who genuinely are a neither:)).

I suppose the worrying thing is this is a snapshot of society, in that way I agree with the bears, it does not look good:)

SingleSue

Oooohh a neither...I like that!
I do like to be different.

My general outlook is that of a realist (some would say pessimist, I disagree) but I do try to look objectively at both sides of an arguement to see where both parties are coming from. I'm one of those people who will always find something good to say about everyone or every situation..even if it takes some thinking about!

I have my pipedreams just like any other person but always at the back of my mind, there is that little thought of what could go wrong, what problems could be encountered etc...I call it my back up plan and a way to prepare if that should happen.

Works for me!

*I never used to be like that until I realised I had to think of things that could go wrong, only discovered that little nugget after a breakdown where I had been thinking everything would be hunky dory and work out just fine in the end....it didn't.

Yakubu22

Some nice arguments....I created this thread because of my own personal situation.

I have a stable above average paid job. I currently rent a nice but reasonably cheap apartment in a decent area. I live with my partner and we plan to get married soon and (eventually) have kids.
However we aren't settled in this country and are considering !!!!!!ing off overseas (Australia). My predicament is, it worth buying a house here while we get ourselves sorted in terms of sorting our long term future?
OR is it better to rent for now? Given housing doesn't appear to represent a good shorter term investment.
I'm not talking about making £££s I just dont want to buy a house, be in it 2 years, decide to emigrate, then find its worth less than I bought it for.
Alternatively I dont want to live in a flat for 2 years (while we sort ourselves out) only to decide to buy a house and stay in this county. Cos I couldve just bought a house earlier and be a few years ino the mortage.
IF it was 2005 again we probably wouldve just bought a house as it would've seemed a great investment irrelevant of where we end up. But now it isnt that clear cut.
The common ground between Bears and Bulls appears to be is that there will be no serious HPI for a long time.

Any comments or suggestions on the above are very welcome!

poppy10_2

Yakubu22 wrote: »

Any comments or suggestions on the above are very welcome!

You appear to be looking for reasoned debate and rational arguments. You must be new here.

Yakubu22

poppy10 wrote: »

You appear to be looking for reasoned debate and rational arguments. You must be new here.

Yeah and a little nieve maybe, but I'm hoping for some pearls of wisdowm from someone

Really2

Yakubu22 wrote: »

Some nice arguments....I created this thread because of my own personal situation.

I have a stable above average paid job. I currently rent a nice but reasonably cheap apartment in a decent area. I live with my partner and we plan to get married soon and (eventually) have kids.
However we aren't settled in this country and are considering !!!!!!ing off overseas (Australia). My predicament is, it worth buying a house here while we get ourselves sorted in terms of sorting our long term future?
OR is it better to rent for now? Given housing doesn't appear to represent a good shorter term investment.
I'm not talking about making £££s I just dont want to buy a house, be in it 2 years, decide to emigrate, then find its worth less than I bought it for.
Alternatively I dont want to live in a flat for 2 years (while we sort ourselves out) only to decide to buy a house and stay in this county. Cos I couldve just bought a house earlier and be a few years ino the mortage.
IF it was 2005 again we probably wouldve just bought a house as it would've seemed a great investment irrelevant of where we end up. But now it isnt that clear cut.
The common ground between Bears and Bulls appears to be is that there will be no serious HPI for a long time.

Any comments or suggestions on the above are very welcome!

Good luck with the wedding and the trying for kids (just hope it does not get to the peeing on sticks phase:))
Why not rent an equiverlent to what you would have liked to purchase and see how things go.
Things can change and I see for you in your situation and the current climate renting is the best option.

Buying would not leave your options open as you are at the mercy of the markets.

chucky

poppy10 wrote: »

You appear to be looking for reasoned debate and rational arguments. You must be new here.

quite...

poppy10 wrote: »

Really? How about these random bulls then?
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showuser=10405
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showuser=1395
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showuser=8846
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showuser=10491
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showuser=15335
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showuser=17111
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showuser=20667
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showuser=13310

this is an absolute classic that wanted anyone with a different outlook to be banned from MSE :rolleyes:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1200111&highlight=