Investment in social housing to treble

SingleSue

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Or maybe they just have experience of that society?

Like myself for instance, who has had to pay 3 times in just one year to ressurect a fence which has been smashed to pieces twice and burnt once by the same set of kids, who continue to live in the same houses, paid for by us.

Maybe I now have to live with an unsightly, 8 foot high metal monstrosity which costs us 4x the amount of the wooden fence but was seen as a solution to the problem.

Note the solutuon was not to stop the kids, or fine the parents. The solution was to charge us more and give us a horrible steel fence to look at.

Maybe when you have had your car keyed because you asked a child to stop kicking the ball at your neighbours windows, you would think "well maybe I'm getting a little tired of all this"?

As I say, until people have personal experience of all this it's easy to look down on people like me who say these things and go all holier than thou.

About 3 years before I moved in here, there was apparently a massive fight in the streets between 2 sets of private owners and 3 sets of council rented over these problems, where 4 were ended hospitalised and one nearly died. Neighbour told me about it about 4 months after I moved in! This was over the kids going through a fad of slashing tyres in the area.

This is something, where, having to live with it, and pay for it (paid £340 last financial year for those fences) where I'm not going to just put up and shutup because someone on a forum (as this is usually the case) tries to tell me I'm wrong.

Notice councillors sorting out the problems always live in detached houses, with nice big gates protecting themselves from others?

I'm becoming rather bored of those who just want to be able to look after their surroundings and personal property, becoming the bad guys. While those who carry out these acts become those who just need more care and need to be protected. That's where society has gone completely wrong.

I have the opposite problem...private neighbours, working etc compared to me in social housing on benefits.

Their kids nicking my garden furniture, their kids walking over my car, their kids kicking the ball at my ornaments in the garden, their kids egging my windows and thinking it a great hoot and last night, their kids running around with a blooming knife outside while the mother was screaming at them to put the knife down.

Goodness knows what has got into them, it used to be so quiet living here..it scared the eekk out of me!

I no longer feel safe which is scary as a lone female in the house with children.

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amcluesent wrote: »

"Tomorrow's slums today!"

the slums of tomorrow are actually the new build apartment blocks of today

chucky

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The irony about all this is that the solutions already exist, but are only being used piecemeal.

solutions are there but will take a generation to implement

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Unfortunately this government is very good at giving a big build up to a damp squib.

due to the time it would take to implement no government would spend time or money on something that they will not benefit from in their term of office

Graham_Devon

chucky wrote: »

solutions are there but will take a generation to implement



due to the time it would take to implement no government would spend time or money on something that they will not benefit from in their term of office

Maggie did. Most of the country hated her for it.

chucky

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Maggie did. Most of the country hated her for it.

there are no politicians like our Maggie any more. Labour or Tory. no balls.

kennyboy66_2

lynzpower wrote: »

There are plenty of 15 year old girls whos dream it is is to be a doctor, a politicians a barrister, a soldier,a pilot, a researcher.

It is certainly NO WHERE near every 15 year old girls dream to get pregnant and live on benefits. It wouldnt even cross themind of teenagers in my family, who aspire to acadmic careers and already have part time jobs and savings.

Our resident bigot casually ignores the fact the girls seem to be performing better in primary, secondary and tertiary education.

More women now qualify as doctors and solicitors then men, professions that even one generation were dominated by men.
Then there are the 19 year old hairdressers working at Toni & Guy getting paid £20k.
Take a look round Supermarkets and there will be more girls working their way through University than men.

baileysbattlebus

Years ago when we moved to Scotland we got a council house as OH was an incoming worker.

The house was ok - the neighbours were nice - not everyone looked after their gardens - but generally ok.

After we had been there about a year we found out about "high amenity" council housing. We applied for one. To get one you had to have your current property inspected, be in employment and be able to pay the full rent - no HB. We applied for and got one.

The small estate was lovely - every thing was well kept and nice.

Perhaps we need more places like this or perhaps the council tenants who are allocated housing on a private estate should have to undergo the inspection and checks and be capable of paying the full rent, to be able to move into such housing.

I agree, that a couple of rough families can drag whole streets down. Is there not somewhere they can all be together? They could inflect misery on each other then.

Graham_Devon

baileysbattlebus wrote: »

I agree, that a couple of rough families can drag whole streets down. Is there not somewhere they can all be together? They could inflect misery on each other then.

I believe it is Margaret Beckitt who is the campaigner for MORE social housing within private housing, or as she calls it, mixed communities, and has hailed it as a success on many occasions.

I don't know if she was the architect of the scheme though, I doubt it.

It was to end the problem of slum estates. I.e. these people living together and bringing that one area down to a slum.

So now, the same thing happens on smaller scales, but over a more widespread area. Plus, the best thing for the councils, is in a lot of areas like mine, you can put service charges in as its "affordable property" and for some reason like flats, these come with service charges, and then charge the tennants for the damage they cause. My service charges are something to do with the land these "affordable properties" were built on.

Problem is, you cannot charge the council tennants this service charge.

So all it means is all those who live privately are paying out, while those creating the damage, dont pay.

We all get account summaries each year. Thats how I know £6,900 went on fencing in one single year. Hence I can work out roughly what I paid out of the service charge.

Had a letter 2 months ago, approx stating that after inspection, several untaxed vehicles were appearing in a certain area of the estate. If these vehicles are not moved or taxed within one month, a charge will be levied to all tennants to remove them.

Which cars are these? Oh, the ones outside the problem homes.

Of course, when it came to the governments plan to make people all nice and warm and cosy in their homes, which homes got this? Oh! The problem homes!

Like I say, they just get everything, and pay for nothing. I cannot blame them for not giving a damn about anyone else.

StevieJ

baileysbattlebus wrote: »

The small estate was lovely - every thing was well kept and nice.

Perhaps we need more places like this or perhaps the council tenants who are allocated housing on a private estate should have to undergo the inspection and checks and be capable of paying the full rent, to be able to move into such housing.
.

Why would you need to go through the council and be inspected if you wanted to live on a private estate and could afford the full rent

Graham_Devon

StevieJ wrote: »

Why would you need to go through the council and be inspected if you wanted to live on a private estate and could afford the full rent

Specifically says, and you have highlighted...."council tennants who are allocated housing on private estates"