Using a linux VM Server on a w32 pc.. help

zappahey

MercilessKiller wrote:

Also, the linux server is:
Compaq Tru64 UNIX V5.1A

Umm, Tru64 isn't Linux and I'm not even sure if it will install on a VMWare virtual machine. Certainly, when I was running Tru64 it only supported Alpahservers.

MercilessKiller

zappahey wrote:

Umm, Tru64 isn't Linux and I'm not even sure if it will install on a VMWare virtual machine. Certainly, when I was running Tru64 it only supported Alpahservers.

Tru64 is Unix i believe... and linux is based on the unix OS right?

Thus the Tru64 gnn C compiler will still compile in the same way as a Linux OS?

As for telnetting into the server.. i can do that connected to the network no problem, but when i'm back at home, i dont have access to the server thus i'd create a virtual unix server and telnet into that one instead...

zappahey

MercilessKiller wrote:

Tru64 is Unix i believe... and linux is based on the unix OS right?

Thus the Tru64 gnn C compiler will still compile in the same way as a Linux OS?

Ah, maybe I misunderstood. I thought you planned to install Tru64 on a VMWare virtual machine.

I'm not convinced that an executable compiled in Linux will run on Tru64 but I'll leave that to someone more qualified to comment.

The installation of Fedora on a VMWare machine is very straightforward and isn't hugely different from an installation on a real PC. I'm sure if you have a read at the VMWare docs, you'll have no great problems.

MercilessKiller

zappahey wrote:

Ah, maybe I misunderstood. I thought you planned to install Tru64 on a VMWare virtual machine.

I'm not convinced that an executable compiled in Linux will run on Tru64 but I'll leave that to someone more qualified to comment.

The installation of Fedora on a VMWare machine is very straightforward and isn't hugely different from an installation on a real PC. I'm sure if you have a read at the VMWare docs, you'll have no great problems.

Ok cheers. Will give it a try soon I suppose. I thought i may as well do a lil research before i go and screw up my laptop haha...

fyi i installed Cygwin but commands such as cc don't work, thus i don't think a compiler is included and not sure where to get plugins from etc.. will stick with the VM i think!

Thanks for the help

loftx

If you have a fast net connection just download the Browser image from vmwares website - it a ubuntu distribution, so you can just install the relevent packages and get programming.

Edit - if you haven't got vmware working due to licencing issues get their free player aswell which allows you to run any image.

amosworks

MercilessKiller wrote:

but because its a new laptop and i like to keep new things as clean as possible.

roflmao, and you've installed Windows, right? :rotfl:

MercilessKiller wrote:

Also, the linux server is:
Compaq Tru64 UNIX V5.1A

Tru64 UNIX is not Linux.

MercilessKiller wrote:

If i install something like Fedora and use the C compiler included, would I be getting exactly the same results as in the server above?

Depends on the compiler, how it's configured and which one you choose to use if you install several.

MercilessKiller wrote:

I'm not sure if there are different versions of C

There are loads but I guess you'd want to stick to ANSI Standard C.


So basically you've installed a dirty OS on a clean laptop, want to install some magic piece of VMware to emulate Tru64 UNIX but actually install Fedora Linux then you want to find a matching C compiler for your architecture and you don't know the architecture or compiler name/version of your University system and you're don't seem entirely sure it's even ANSI Standard C you want.

*Scratches head*

amosworks

Lob_Rockster wrote:

But then again, for a proper OS, I use slackware

Woop woop I've been slacking for years, simply doesn't get much cleaner

MercilessKiller

amosworks wrote:

roflmao, and you've installed Windows, right? :rotfl:


Tru64 UNIX is not Linux.


Depends on the compiler, how it's configured and which one you choose to use if you install several.


There are loads but I guess you'd want to stick to ANSI Standard C.


So basically you've installed a dirty OS on a clean laptop, want to install some magic piece of VMware to emulate Tru64 UNIX but actually install Fedora Linux then you want to find a matching C compiler for your architecture and you don't know the architecture or compiler name/version of your University system and you're don't seem entirely sure it's even ANSI Standard C you want.

*Scratches head*

To be fair you're being a little pedantic!

First of all windows was pre installed on it.. and I am a windows fan so it's fine.

tru UNIX is of course not linux durr.. BUT, linux is based on the unix kernel.. thus commands evolve from unix and so does the compiler!

Yes Its bog standard ANSI C that we've been using... so that's where I'm struggling. Does LINUX OS C compilers compile in ANSI C? If not is there a windows ANSI C compiler?

Thx

wiraone

MercilessKiller wrote:

tru UNIX is of course not linux durr.. BUT, linux is based on the unix kernel.. thus commands evolve from unix and so does the compiler!

Not picking on you .. but no, Linux isn't based on unix kernel .. Linux has it own kernel .. There is ongoing court battle between SCO & IBM about this in the US at the moment. Most if not all Linux distros however included GNU stuffs which make them look like a Unix OS.

Anyway, to answer your original question .. you shouldn't have a problem programming your stuff on Linux if its a strict ANSI C codes. VMWARE Server is a free download too.. surely as student, you've load of time to play around with it

JonnyF_2

MercilessKiller wrote:

fyi i installed Cygwin but commands such as cc don't work, thus i don't think a compiler is included and not sure where to get plugins from etc.. will stick with the VM i think!

If you run the cygwin setup program again, you can select from a list of packages, there'll be a Devel group in the package list, and you can select things like "gcc" and lots of other different compilers.

If you just want a standard terminal, cygwin is great. You can also add an ssh client to it (telnet is very insecure, I'd always use ssh instead).

Also, have you thought about using a LiveCD? LiveCDs let you run linux without installing, just put the cd in the drive and reboot.

My laptop doesn't have a CD drive, so last week I made a USB stick using: http://slax.linux-live.org/

Now, when I put the usb stick in, I can reboot the computer, and go into linux. It doesn't write to the hard drives (unless you really want it too), but you can still read from them. (Also NTFS drivers in linux only allow reading at the moment anyway). Putting it on a USB stick also means you can write file permanently to the USB stick (which obviously you can't do with a CD).

Jonny