Google chrome hiccup

robredz

Can't use chrome in Linux but dillo works good and fast for basic browsing

4743hudsonj

robredz wrote: »

Can't use chrome in Linux but dillo works good and fast for basic browsing

wine?

dillo is awful for me as an everyday browser

only useful if you had an old system running puppy linux or xubuntu and even then it only has minor benifits.

for me anyways

ABH_3

Money_Grabber13579 wrote: »

Ah, there's the google chrome buster that I knew would come along!

Well I try not too disappoint.

It's sure better than IE and faster than Firefox or Safari. Who cares if it keeps itself up to date or logs what you search for?

Well that's the thing isn't it. If you don't know it's invading your privacy then people won't know will they. It's like me sticking a trojan on your computer and telling you, hey it's there but I might never have to use it... so what if it's collecting PRIVATE information, and it's self updating, it's not like I'll ever read it all.

But there maybe a time when I need to read it in order to assist, should you have a problem. I'm sure you would have a problem with that, if not... well go get RealVNC please, install it and send me the key!

If you use google in any browser, your search will be logged anyway, so that's not specific to Chrome. So why do you worry, unless you've something to hide?

Well if there was nothing to hide, then why are google so surreptitious and secretive about its existence. For that matter, why do they need to be afterall if you use google search engine they don't need it do they. But yet when you ask them how to uninstall it, they give you some rubbish about it just being used for them to monitor things and update the browser. Some people may value their security enough to NOT want it, NOT everyone is just you which you seem to think is the way it is. If YOU think it's nothing to worry about then it's not a concern.

And don't go calling it spyware; it isn't.

Who died and made you a deity?

Did someone say I wasn't allowed to mention the Embedded Spyware present in Google Chrome, the browser? :eek: Well I suppose I ought not do that again then had I :rotfl:

I wouldn't mind but these versions of Chrome:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTABLE-SOFTWARE/Internet/Browsers/Portable-Google-Chrome-Chromium.shtml
http://www.labnol.org/software/download-portable-google-chrome-for-usb-drive/4406/

Last time I checked at least, didn't NEED the 'googleupdater.exe' program to function or update. Go figure!

Money_Grabber13579

But Google logs your data whether you use Chrome or not. If you use IE, Firefox or Safari (or any other browser) your data will still be logged. So that's not something you can use a criticism against Google Chrome. If you're using it to criticise Google in general, then fair enough, but since this discussion was about Chrome, it isn't a valid point.

ABH_3

Money_Grabber13579 wrote: »

If your using it to criticise Google in general, then fair enough, but since this discussion was about Chrome, it isn't a valid point.

Seriously, you need to sort out your sentence structure. But it's late, so I'm sure we'll all forgive you. We're talking about aspects of a browser called Google Chrome. So if I bring to the fore the possibility of it still being embeded with spyware, this is NOT relevant.

However, IF I were to criticise the company or the search engine it is!? Whoa....!? You lost me.

Anyway, the question was: is googleupdate.exe still resident after deploying the site downloaded version of the browser, you said it was so I now know NOT to download that version still. However, the Portable versions don't include googleupdate.exe and so are still SAFE!

The important bit here you see and the reason I'm still referring to it being spyware is IF you uninstall the browser, it LEAVES GOOGLEUPDATE.EXE still in residence on your computer. Infact it goes further, it actually embeds itself INTO the targets registry, delete it all you like it just resurects itself and comes back. Infact it's so difficult to remove that there's even sites with instructions on how to remove it, it's so annoying that even CCleaner a valued program for cleaning the registry was unable to clear it on my system, I had to manually edit the registry to remove it, then run ccleaner to actually get it off the computer.

But yet you still think it's NOT spyware and that it's still just there to support a browser that's not actually ON the computer - amazing that you can be so blind (sorry if that offends you, but seriously!) Uninstall google chrome, you'll see it for yourself or look here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030522-2.html

http://users.digitalindigo.net/~shane/blog/?p=20

http://www.ceveni.com/2008/11/how-to-disable-annoying-googleupdateexe.html

http://entangled.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/stealthy-googleupdate/

Such sites wouldn't need to exist would they if it was an easy uninstall.

Money_Grabber13579

Seriously, you need to sort out your sentence structure. But it's late, so I'm sure we'll all forgive you. We're talking about aspects of a browser called Google Chrome. So if I bring to the fore the possibility of it still being embeded with spyware, this is NOT relevant.

Ok, I'll try and be coherent this time.

However, IF I were to criticise the company or the search engine it is!? Whoa....!? You lost me.

What I was trying to say was that Google will collect data on you, whether you use their browser or not. I'm not saying I agree with the policy, but that's life.

Anyway, the question was: is googleupdate.exe still resident after deploying the site downloaded version of the browser, you said it was so I now know NOT to download that version still. However, the Portable versions don't include googleupdate.exe and so are still SAFE!

Did I say that? I assume it does though since Chrome updates itself. But nearly any program produced by Google has this component, so you could have it, but never might never have used Chrome in your life.

The important bit here you see and the reason I'm still referring to it being spyware is IF you uninstall the browser, it LEAVES GOOGLEUPDATE.EXE still in residence on your computer. Infact it goes further, it actually embeds itself INTO the targets registry, delete it all you like it just resurects itself and comes back. Infact it's so difficult to remove that there's even sites with instructions on how to remove it, it's so annoying that even CCleaner a valued program for cleaning the registry was unable to clear it on my system, I had to manually edit the registry to remove it, then run ccleaner to actually get it off the computer.

If it does do this, maybe it's still a necessary component of other programs remaining on your computer? What's the problem if it does remain on your computer anyhow? It's only an update program.

But yet you still think it's NOT spyware and that it's still just there to support a browser that's not actually ON the computer - amazing that you can be so blind (sorry if that offends you, but seriously!) Uninstall google chrome, you'll see it for yourself or look here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030522-2.html

http://users.digitalindigo.net/~shane/blog/?p=20

http://www.ceveni.com/2008/11/how-to-disable-annoying-googleupdateexe.html

http://entangled.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/stealthy-googleupdate/

Such sites wouldn't need to exist would they if it was an easy uninstall.

You should know as well as I do that Google don't collect all this information for their own purpose. Our present government is very much into data collection and want to know what colour of socks you wear and what you had for breakfast. Hence, Google is forced to collect this information. Therefore it isn't spyware to the extent that it's not used for ulterior motives; instead it's used because it "might" prevent terrorist activity, or so the government thinks. (Or it might do if they didn't keep leaving it on the trains.)

ABH_3

Money_Grabber13579 wrote: »

Ok, I'll try and be coherent this time.

Thanks

What I was trying to say was that Google will collect data on you, whether you use their browser or not. I'm not saying I agree with the policy, but that's life.

Google will collate your searches to your ip address if you use their site for searches, that's true yes. However, it will not collate information on your providing you don't use its website or features. However, with googleupdate.exe being left upon a targets machine you don't actually know what they're collating and for what reasons do you? What's more, once you uninstall a program its usually assumed that that will be the end of your relationship with that program, which is possibly the reason why Google still embeds its spyware in your registry, as it doesn't want to be left in the dark. It still wishes to be given the right of access to your data, even though you have chosen to end your relationship and uninstall their software - you see yet why it's a concern?

Did I say that?

You're correct, you didn't. My appologies.

I assume it does though since Chrome updates itself. But nearly any program produced by Google has this component, so you could have it, but never might never have used Chrome in your life.

That is true I agree with you yes, I mentioned it in this thread because as you pointed out, it was discussing google chrome the browser. True it may not be exclusively down to the browser being installed, it could be attributable to google earth but it doesn't mean it's any less of a concern. There are people that will never install google earth, but will possibly try the browser.

They should really be aware that they're opening their computer up to whatever google is doing with googleupdate.exe should they decide to uninstall or not use the browser, or indeed their services full stop.

Considering this forum is frequented by experienced and inexperienced alike, there maybe some here who would at the least expect us the experienced users to inform them of any pitfalls of using such things as browsers, should such information be pertinent of course.

If it does do this, maybe it's still a necessary component of other programs remaining on your computer? What's the problem if it does remain on your computer anyhow? It's only an update program.

But is it? Or is it there to spy on you, or is it there for another reason yet to be discerned? Truth is, it's there because google want it to be left there, if they are leaving junk on computers that we don't want\need then surely this should be of concern. Afterall we don't know what i can or will do under various circumstances, just think back to things like securedisk. They remain in residence, but yet they can have a direct impact on what you can do with your own hardware, why should companies be allowed to do that. Whose to say under some as yet unasertained conditions then googleupdate.exe maybe something more.

You should know as well as I do that Google don't collect all this information for their own purpose.

Of course they do, they're in it for marketting too.

Our present government is very much into data collection and want to know what colour of socks you wear and what you had for breakfast. Hence, Google is forced to collect this information. Therefore it isn't spyware to the extent that it's not used for ulterior motives; instead it's used because it "might" prevent terrorist activity, or so the government thinks. (Or it might do if they didn't keep leaving it on the trains.)

I see what you're saying, but then it could equally be to block you or someone else from seeing something. Who knows, they may call a quick general election tomorrow, the tv infrastructure may fail and everything but email goes bits up. Of course all those with googleupdate.exe won't see this so won't vote. I admit, it's unlikely - but lets face it, we don't actually know what googleupdate.exe is or what it does, sure we surmise and conclude that by its name it must just be an update program, but lets face it if the program it's supposed to be updating is no longer resident, then what's it doing.

If it's got no connection to the computer once the reason for its installation has gone, then it really shouldn't be there and should be uninstalled. It that simple, if the govt of the day wants intel from all and sundry, let it send out letters with SAE's like everyone else, no need to help it by getting lazy and letting things like this lay dormant on machines unecessarily, it could be something more dangerous such as a BOTNET, afterall, we don't know do we and that's why it concerned me enough to bring it up in my first post.

Money_Grabber13579

I know what you're saying but surely this googleupdater.exe is only concerned witht he updating of the relevant programs? Collection of data will take place through some other part of the program, will it not? Therefore having the updater remain on your computer isn't really collecting data. But I suppose, why would it remain? Got me.

Ah well! It's fast and doesn't nick my bank details so that's really all I care about in a browser!

onejontwo

Good grief !! I've started something here!! Anyway I've altered the cookie settings and can now log in without inserting my username and password. So thanks you guys and hopefully this will bring a bit of peace! Lol!

Money_Grabber13579

Sorry, we just managed to have a bit of a conversation on the side!