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Advice re Objecting to new housing Estate

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  • withabix wrote: »
    The proposed development will include affordable housing, by law, for this very reason.
    Not by law it won't - it may very well include affordable housing to comply with the Council's planning policies though (that's not law).
  • Poppy9
    Poppy9 Posts: 18,833 Forumite
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    IWe also have an abysmal public transport system (if that is what the "bus" that infrequently passes through can be called) so hundreds of new families will be adding to the village-
    ~So it's not a small housing estate but a much bigger developement with hundreds of houses?

    If that's the case then you need to see what plans are in place for access roads to the new developement, will it impact on nearby streets, will it cause traffic bottlenecks etc.

    Re the lack of facilities for youngsters isn't that something that the current community could be addressing via the use of schools out of hours and use of church/village halls.

    What will be the effect on local schools? Are they currently full?

    Things like shops/doctor's surgeries etc. will expand to cope with the demand and this might be a positive thing for the village.
    :) ~Laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone.~:)
  • Cknocker
    Cknocker Posts: 235 Forumite
    The problem TOB is you do not have an objection, if you had an objection you wouldn't be asking for what reason you could object.

    I live in a part of the country where we struggle to get basic facilities that the rest of the country take for granted because of people objecting they don''t want it near them, but it fine somewhere else so I d tend to get aggrieve by people objecting for obhections sake.

    You're saying the post office closing is nothing to do with the argument, why did you include it then?

    Is the school really oversubscribed, bearing in mind they can admit pupils from anywhere not just in the catchment.

    Just answer this, honestly, why do you not want the development?

    Transport issues will be taken up by the highays officer.
    Education isues will be taken up by the education authority.

    Have you read the local development plan?

    How will building more houses devastate the village?
  • Noel80
    Noel80 Posts: 19 Forumite
    Thanks for the info planning_officer.:beer:
  • So apparently Visual impact is valid, loss of view is not. An important distinction worth knowing - which I hadn't. So having a 3 storey house 2 feet from my bedroom window is fine, but if I say the Purple colour is having a negative visual impact I might be listened to !!
    I probably should clarify this by way of an example! Planners have to consider whether someone's view of something is so visually intrusive that it warrants an objection. Say, if you have a 2 storey house built 5 metres from your bedroom window it's fair to say that would be very dominating, prominent, overbearing and visually intrusive (all good planning words!!). However, if that same 2 storey house was built 50 metres away, whilst you could no doubt see it, it would be very hard (or pretty much impossible!) for a planner to refuse something as being so overbearing and visually intrusive from that distance that it would be harmful to the enjoyment of your home.
  • libra10
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    Similar happened in our village - lots of expensive executive housing was built cutting into the Green Belt, with nothing affordable for young residents to buy. Services such as schools, Health Centre, narrow country roads, water supplies and sewerage were overwhelmed with all resultant problems.

    A village action committee was set up, which has been successful in reducing building considerably, perhaps similar could be set up in your own area.

    You make very strong, valid points and I wish you every success!
  • withabix
    withabix Posts: 9,508 Forumite
    edited 21 June 2009 at 8:39AM
    Sorry, how do you know I am a nimby ?
    Or is ANYONE who objects to any building work a NIMBY as far as you are concerned ?

    Do I not have a legal right to object to any proposed planning going on which affects me? - Or only if I am of the same political persuasion as you ?

    If I want to object because they plan to paint all the houses purple, why should I not be able to object ? Just because you say I cannot !

    I never made any reference to the UK housing problem. I never made reference to why don't they build in Sheffield, or Newcastle, or half way up Snowdon. I simply asked for Practical advice.
    I never said I have not got solid, objective grounds - and whether I have or not is surely irrelevant.
    I have a legal right to object and I asked advice on how to go about it.

    I never said I had been born in the village, nor that I have lived here 6 weeks.
    I never said that only "country folk" should live in a village, nor that you have to own a tractor before the vicar will marry you.
    I certainly never said that anyone should be denied housing, be they local and young or city-dwellers and old.
    Or have you got an objection to people retiring to the countryside ?
    Does that make you ageist ?

    I ask for information because ( guess what) I don't know how you go about objecting :eek:
    and suddenly I am tarred and feathered as a Nimby - presumably I am also a Luddite, Philistine, and an ardent advocate of the benefits of rural in-breeding !!!

    Talk about prejudice - I suggest you look in your own back yard first.

    You've confirmed my opinions.

    By the way, how long did you say you had lived in that village?

    I still can't see any genuine grounds for objections, just extensive straw clutching nimbyism.

    As for looking in my own back yard, I don't have any issues over housebuilding, as I appreciate the need for increasing the UK housing stock. It is appropriate to add to the housing stock in a mixture of urban and rural locations.

    Where did you say they ought to build these houses instead of your village? In somebody else's back yard?
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  • withabix
    withabix Posts: 9,508 Forumite
    Not by law it won't - it may very well include affordable housing to comply with the Council's planning policies though (that's not law).

    Sorry, I meant planning policy, however this is supported by enabling legislation is it not? (Otherwise developers would be able to successfully challenge this regularly).
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  • libra10
    libra10 Posts: 19,601 Forumite
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    There are various brown belt areas which could be explored before building on fresh new areas.

    This small island is definitely overcrowded and with opinions such as those of withabix, there is nothing to stop the developers. And I don't think their motives are altruistic!
  • withabix
    withabix Posts: 9,508 Forumite
    edited 21 June 2009 at 8:41AM
    libra10 wrote: »
    There are various brown belt areas which could be explored before building on fresh new areas.

    This small island is definitely overcrowded and with opinions such as those of withabix, there is nothing to stop the developers. And I don't think their motives are altruistic!

    Whilst government policy continues to allow uncontrolled immigration, there will continue to be a need to increase the housing stock.

    I haven't said anywhere that I agree with this policy.

    Housebuilders would not continue to build houses if there was no ongoing need (excluding short term recessionary effects), as their businesses would not survive very long if they did.

    Brown field sites are extensively developed, indeed many housing developments are on brown field sites.

    Why people think they can start threads on a public forum and then expect not to have opposing opinions voiced is beyond me. There is no obligation on us to a)agree with the OP, b) support their opinion or c)not post other opinions. People who think differently should stick to writing letters to newspapers and avoid public fora.
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