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Joe_Bloggs

I dimly remember the collapse of the Virgin Digital media effort here.
J_B.

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rs8220 wrote: »

Aside from the previous comments, why pay VM for music when I can just use Spotify and legally listen to nearly anything I want... it's completely free (with the odd advert)

The article states that you're free to use the music on whatever devices you want too, and after the subscription you can retain the music you've obtained. While Spotify is a truly excellent application, it is limited to being on your computer (for the time being) so does lose out on the flexibility side of things.

Jaffa.

ChristopheB wrote: »

It's not theft it's copyright infringement.

I thought copyright infringement was when you made money from someone else's work?

It is theft, it has the same effect as walking into HMV and steeling CD's. I'm not too sure how they will effectively crack down on illegal P2P file sharing though, how will they track it back to you? How will they know what files your downloading are illegal? I'm watching it on Sky news at the moment... Seem's like it's just scare tactics and it's ironic because monitoring the internet will slow it down, the government want to speed it up.

elvch01

Irrespective of whether its copyright infringement or theft, it is still not legal to download without permission so let's put that argument aside. Whatever tecnology any ISP starts to use is irrelevant because "the community" will just invent ways round it e.g. by encryption, agile port connections etc

sporedude

Probably hoping people see it as a threat and stop downloading. No chance of that happening.

Jaffa.

sporedude wrote: »

Probably hoping people see it as a threat and stop downloading. No chance of that happening.

Well, Sky just said it, the music industry could see this coming and they failed to act quick enough.

Well their all starting to censor the internet now, it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to sell the internet like they sell Sky TV - in packages, only allowing you to certain websites depending on what you pay. After all, according to the BBC people don;t care about what speed their internet is, they want to know what their speed will allow them to do.

sporedude

We'l be worse than China, Now thats a nanny state.

DCFC79

rs8220 wrote: »

Aside from the previous comments, why pay VM for music when I can just use Spotify and legally listen to nearly anything I want... it's completely free (with the odd advert)

and youtube and radio stations are all free

Jaffa.

DCFC79 wrote: »

and youtube and radio stations are all free

Mmm. Well Virgin offering a service like that can only prove that they can't practically police the internet when it comes to the illegal downloading of music and video VIA P2P networks. They have a target to cut illegal downloads by about 70% so again, they have no fail proof way of stopping it.

I think by offering this service their trying to withdraw people from using illegal ways and I guess the incentive is you get to keep the file to put on your MP3/4 player and artists will still get paid.

ChristopheB

anewhope wrote: »

Whichever slew you want to put on it, it's still illegal.

It has nothing to do with "slew". It's do to with conveying the correct information and not misleading people. Theft involves taking something away from someone. Implied revenue doesn't count.

With your logic why not just say people are murderers instead of thieves both are incorrect when it comes to making copies of media.