Free Yu-Gi-Oh! Poster from PETA

johnrhodes

freebie_junkie wrote:

each to their own, but personally id rather eat my own ar*e than animals which have been cramped toghter, force fed hormones and slop, then captive bolt pistolled thru teh head before being butchered, or electocuted before having their heads lopped off, anyone who can- i dont think that they could call themselves an 'animal lover'!

the difference between other meat-eating animals and humans is taht we are clever enough to go against our primal urges, i.e. we use dont just use sex as
a baby-making method do we? and we are clever enough not to have to eat meat and still remain healthy. if youre comparing your meat-eating to a lioness, then chase after your cow, bite into its hide and eat it raw there and then cant- can you!? so its not exactly the same is it? in fact, i can eat all my veggies raw and feel fine but you could kill yourself with raw meat, odd that isnt it?!!

i havent eaten meat for ten years nor belived in god for 22 years, and im perfectly healthy and a very trim size ten (unlike many obese people who eat meat!) your arguments wont add up till you can hunt down with just your nails and teeth and eat a raw animal there and then.

p.s. id go into some other medical facts about why we arent designed to eat meat but after all your goin on about slander/libel arguments i cant be bothered.

first of all- there are no 'medical facts' why we shouldnt eat meat. not even the old adage that eating red meat causes bowel cancer because i have studied all the relevant scientific literature as part if my job. (i did a pubmed search with medline)
by the way, there are plenty of 'medical facts' why we should eat meat- none more so than it is precisely what our bodies have been 'designed' for. just examine the enzymes in our digestive system.
eating meat doesnt cause obesity- eating meat of any kind is the singular more healthy gain of protein in the natural world, far more healthy than nuts or pulses.
to equate our urge to eat meat with our urge to copulate shows a disticnt lack of understanding. The urge to copulate is all encompassing- it dominates the existence of every man on the planet. the urge to eat meat is similarly apparent- do not argue with thousands of years worth of evolution- that is if u believe in evolution. im sure most people at PETA havent gpt the first idea about real science

freebie_junkie

go ahead, try to eat your cow alive with no tools or weapons, see how far you get.

Edna_Bucket_2

Can I suggest to the Mods that this thread is now best moved to "Discussion Time"? It now seems to have little relation to the original freebie title.

johnrhodes

freebie_junkie wrote:

go ahead, try to eat your cow alive with no tools or weapons, see how far you get.

you point is what? that we are designed to be herbivores?
Have you ever studied the anatomy of a herbivorous animal? Thought not

freebie_junkie

johnrodes, i can just see you now with your handbag held up against your chest. how do you know what i have and havent studied?

johnrhodes

freebie_junkie wrote:

johnrodes, i can just see you now with your handbag held up against your chest. how do you know what i have and havent studied?

hahahahaha
I am just assuming. I think if u had studied anatomy or physiology it would be completely obvious that humans are fine-tuned to eat meat.

freebie_junkie

if you assume you make an !!!!!! out of you and me, well actually not me, just you.

Fenris

I know I really should just let this alone, but I can't help but mention the fact that humans really aren't evolved to eat meat in the same way as our close relatives apes are. As everyone who's ever watched TV will know, humans share 98% of DNA with chimps. Other than the fact that we walk upright, can talk human and can build things, there's very little that sperates us...other than the fact that chimps are very adpet at hunting. Have you ever seen it? It's not nice. Very effective, but also very disturbing to witness. I'd hate to be a cameraman filing that type of hunt.

The reason they're so good at it is because chimps have evolved long arms and legs with which to swing through trees after their monkey prey. They also have very long canine teeth.

Ever wonder why humans don't hunt like that? Because humans managed to evlove beyond the need to do what chimps do. Humans developed tools with which to hunt. Later, humans developed tools with which to cultivate the land. There are humans who haven't eaten meat for generations and they're no worse off for it. Ever wonder why we no longer have long canine teeth? Because humans have developed beyond the need to kill and eat raw flesh.

Humans will probably always be omniverous because it's what we're brought up with. But this doesn't in any way mean that meat HAS to be included in the diet. It's no longer required by our bodies because, over the course of the few millennia that humans have roamed the earth, there have been significant environmental and social changes in human behaviour. If humans were to suddenly be forced back into a carniverous diet, they'd die out almost instantly. You can't live without vegetables and fruits. But if meat were no longer available humans would carry on living becaue we've evolved such a sophisticated system which breaks down and uses vegetable matter far more effectivly than it ever could break down animal proteins.

I'm not saying that eating meat is a bad thing; it's natural. I'm just saying that the argument of evolution is far more complex than "Look at that digestive tract; that's one made for meat!"

Fiona11

Click on Johnrhodes name and read all his threads. Everyone is abusive or unpleasant. Don't forget to report such abuse!

Fenris

Oh yes, so I see. What a gentleman!