Free Yu-Gi-Oh! Poster from PETA

johnrhodes

freebie_junkie wrote:

thats only an argument if you belive in god. what a bizzare thing to post!

I think another way of reading this is 'how nature intended'. After all our bodies have been fine-tuned over thousands of genrations to eat meat. From the teeth in our jaws to the enzymes in our digestive system human beings are designed to eat meat.
I think processed meats should be completely outlawed and I am sure eventually they will. PETA have a lot of good points to make, but they do come accross and slightly preachy in my opinion. At least they are not terrorists like some animal rights groups

Edna_Bucket_2

I wouldn't want to get involved in the debate going on previously one way or the other, but all I would say is that there seem to be many people who feel that PETA veer towards the extremist edge of the anti-vivisection movement, and use these freebies simply as a tactic to get their "other" material out.

If you want to see what I mean simply enter the words "PETA extremist" into Google and see what you get out!

I'll leave it there - but I would be very worried indeed about any child of mine being on their mailing list.

seanparkin

I think John hit the nail right on the head with that one.

Humans evolved the way they did in order to be able to eat meat (as well as vegetables), hence our sharp pointy front teeth as well as our flat grinding side teeth. We are no different than any other omnivorous species - are you going to tell lions that they aren't allowed to kill and eat springbok anymore, and have to live off grass? Or that bears are no longer allowed to hunt anything that moves, and they have to live purely off berries?

Our need to hunt and eat is exactly the same as any other species. Humans are not special, we cannot go against our natural dietary requirements.

Sure, I agree a lot of abuse does happen which causes these animals stress in the shortened lives they have, but surely no more so than being chased across the sarengeti by a raging lioness.

I eat meat, but only organic meat from good sources. As more for my health than the animals well being however. I wont ever even touch processed meat, I'd rather eat my own arm than go to macdonalds.

flutterbybutterfly

In repsonse to Fenris:-

Not going to keep on in circles as I have much better things to do with my time. But finally, clear as day, the site I looked at didn't have the 13+yrs check box. Your link may do but I never argued about that.

Both my children are well aware of how their food reached their plates and are quite comfortable with it, thanks.

Any veggie organisation should have a moral responsibility to point out the virtues of a balanced diet i.e. if not eating meat then how to compensate for the loss of nutrients found in meat and not veg. Instead of just using shock tactics. Children/Teenagers are easily influenced are should be pointed in the right direction whether meat eater or veggie diet. I do not disagree with people choosing a veggie way of life.

I do hope that everyone saying to be an animal lover you have to be vegetarian also only uses alternative therapies/medicines and not medical drugs, wears only synthetic shoes, doesn't wear make-up (there are no guarantees), oh and there's those veggie that eat fish (why are fish different than the cute fluffy animals), oh and why is it ok to drink milk - isn't it a cruel life for a cow? eggs - chicken, what do you feed your pets...the list goes on.

I don't disagree with PETA as a whole, I have looked at their histology and there are some good things they have done. I do however strongly object to protesting outside a school trying to scare kids off drinking milk and showing them graphic images and more which I am not going to list as to avoid a further can of worms.

Oh and Fenris, check your dictionnary for a definition of libel and slander. Slander is spoken word and libel is written. Also if you are expressing personal views based upon factual experience it can be neither.

Thanks for those of you who support what I said with regards to what our body intended us to eat. I agree using the terms "god" was a bit ott but trying to get my point across nonetheless. Either way you look at it god or evolution - comes to the same conclusion.

I agree with Sean about the type of meat eaten. We are the same in our house, free range chicken, eggs etc... even though it costs more it must be better for self and animal. Tried looking for the RSPCA chicken in Tesco that Full on Food BBC mentionned ages ago but can't find it any any local supermarket.

So, goodbye Fenris, as I won't be wasting anymore of my time. Anyone who has nothing better to do than to vent anti-meat eater points of view (by the way I have no anti-veggie feelings) feel free to carry on posting.... as I feel this is no longer anything to do with my comments but just a soap-box for you now, and as you obviously like to have the last word on this here you go...

Fenris

flutterbybutterfly wrote:

So, goodbye Fenris, as I won't be wasting anymore of my time. Anyone who has nothing better to do than to vent anti-meat eater points of view (by the way I have no anti-veggie feelings) feel free to carry on posting.... as I feel this is no longer anything to do with my comments but just a soap-box for you now, and as you obviously like to have the last word on this here you go...

Bye then.

Incidently, I wasn't venting "anti-meat eater points of view". I never once said anything against meat eaters. I'm against the way in which animals are force-fed, caged, mis-treated, maimed, and eventualy brutally dispached all in the name of "mass-production".

I could argue the finer points of slander and libel all day, but as you won't accept anything anyone else has to say, there's little point!

And, since you won't be reading this because it's a waste of your time, none of the above matters! :T :T

For everyone else who looked at this thread for a freebie, it's still there!

mr_bojangles_6

The butterfly is right u know. Libel and Slander, check em out - in every dictionnery (oops)

Did sound quite anti-anyone who didn't agree with u mate, and it sounds like u who doesn't accept anything anyone else has to say.

I wouldnt take it all to heart as everyone should be able to say wot they wanna say.

Fenris

mr_bojangles wrote:

The butterfly is right u know. Libel and Slander, check em out - in every dictionnery (oops)

Did sound quite anti-anyone who didn't agree with u mate, and it sounds like u who doesn't accept anything anyone else has to say.

I wouldnt take it all to heart as everyone should be able to say wot they wanna say.

I take your point mate. I wasn't trying to sound anti-everyone, just wanted to make the point that PETA are a decent organisation and butterfly was making out they were some kind of terrorists! And I do accept what people say, so long as it's valid. You can't just go making accusations against a company because they sent out info which was requested; if you could, every company on the planet would be sued! I was trying to make the point that people can't blame the world for their own kids actions. :rolleyes: Parents these days seem to think that responsibility lies with everyone except themselves...

As for the slander/libel debate, I'm well aware of the differences. However, libel only applies to publications which are permanant. Check it out!

mr_bojangles_6

Fenris wrote:

As for the slander/libel debate, I'm well aware of the differences. However, libel only applies to publications which are permanant. Check it out!

You might like to point out to Martin Lewis :money: then if you think you are right as that means he is wrong!

Look at the top of the page "Posts are not monitored so please: Report Spam, Offensive, Racist or Libellous Posts/PMs or other illegal content"

Fenris

You know what, I just can't be bothered so shall we call it defamation and leave it at that then?

freebie_junkie

each to their own, but personally id rather eat my own ar*e than animals which have been cramped toghter, force fed hormones and slop, then captive bolt pistolled thru teh head before being butchered, or electocuted before having their heads lopped off, anyone who can- i dont think that they could call themselves an 'animal lover'!

the difference between other meat-eating animals and humans is taht we are clever enough to go against our primal urges, i.e. we use dont just use sex as a baby-making method do we? and we are clever enough not to have to eat meat and still remain healthy. if youre comparing your meat-eating to a lioness, then chase after your cow, bite into its hide and eat it raw there and then cant- can you!? so its not exactly the same is it? in fact, i can eat all my veggies raw and feel fine but you could kill yourself with raw meat, odd that isnt it?!!

i havent eaten meat for ten years nor belived in god for 22 years, and im perfectly healthy and a very trim size ten (unlike many obese people who eat meat!) your arguments wont add up till you can hunt down with just your nails and teeth and eat a raw animal there and then.

p.s. id go into some other medical facts about why we arent designed to eat meat but after all your goin on about slander/libel arguments i cant be bothered.