Free Yu-Gi-Oh! Poster from PETA

Fenris

Whilst searching for YGO stuff I found this:

Poster

It's in .pdf so you can print it off easily. Good one for the kids and those of us slightly older who enjoy the Anime! You can also get stickers and what-not from PETA. I had a quick look and it seems they send outside the US, but don't hold me to it!

flutterbybutterfly

Hi,

I don't know what the YGO stuff is like, but I've had a v. bad exp with PETA.

My ten year old filled in an online form to get free comics, unbeknown to me. When they arrived I saw the envelope and intercepted it as I want to know what post my ten year old is receiving.

I was outraged when I saw the comics which are aimed apparently at my son's age group. If he had taken one look at the graphic and unnecessary content he would have wanted been v. v. upset. (They also probably would have turned him veggie which of course is the aim, but this underhand way of exposing youngsters to their views is wrong).

The comics showed (in cartoon format) horrid imagery of animals suffering. We are meat eaters in my house and I respect everyones right to choose, but, before my kids turn 18 then they eat what we eat - a healthy, balanced diet. Once they decide their own diet they can make their own choices.

I was incensed that the organisation was allowed to to send out such material to 10 year olds without parental consent. I also can't believe that they are legally allowed to not to mention the moral implications.

Anyway, as I said, I haven't seen the YGO stuff. It might be harmless. On the otherhand just watch out what you get.

Fenris

Sorry to hear that you dislike PETA, but they are a veggie organisation. I don't wish to be rude, but don't you think you should monitor your kids while online? If they're ordering things willy-nilly from decent sites like PETA they could just as easliy be viewing other, unpleasent things.

At the end of the day your chiled lied to get the information in the first place as to order anything from PETA you have to check a box to say that you're over 13. If he's only 10 then I think the responsibility is with you and not PETA.

The poster is simply a picture of Yugi Yami with a caption saying "Cruelty to Animals is no game" and some info on how to report such a crime to a parent or teacher. I think that's something that ALL children should learn! There's also a short interview with Kazuki Takahashi (Yu-Gi-Oh! creator) about what he thinks of animal cruelty. I can't possibly see how this could offend any child unless they're quite happy to see animals suffer!

flutterbybutterfly

Thanks "Fenris" but I think you have missed my point and turned this into a personal attack.

1. Thanks for your concern but yes my son is monitored on the internet. We have agreed sites which we check, blockers, timed sessions and parental controls... On this occassion this "decent" site slipped through the net.

2. He did not lie as you so crudely put it - I have checked the PETA kids site and it doesnt ask if you are over 13 or not - so get your facts right. Infact, many kids subscription websites get you to enter parents email as well for verification - suprisingly (not) PETA does not.

3. To quote Fenris "I can't possibly see how this could offend any child unless they're quite happy to see animals suffer!" - as I said I had not looked at the specific poster (infact your link would not load properly) so get off your high-horse. All I said was use PETA with caution. We are animal lovers in this household, we just choose to eat how god intended us to.

Just an added point. The literature that was sent through for my son was designed to shock and convert to veggie. It was extremely irresponsible not only for content but also for lacking any sort of advice with regards to drastic changing of a diet. You cannot just cut out meat and expect to have a balanced diet and a healthy child. There is a lot more you need to do to ensure you have a nutritious balances diet otherwise the world would end up with a lot of lanky, pale, unhealthy kids. So come PETA wise up and be responsible.

Fenris

The PETA site does ask that you check a box to ensure the person is over 13, I did check.

For your information you don't need meat to live. I have a very good friend who's 27 and has never eaten meat in her life; she's very healthy and is only pale beacuse she lives in the UK and like us all rarely sees the sun!

As I said before, it's up to you to check that your kids aren't getting stuff they shouldn't. If you plonk your child in front of a computer and leave it to it's own devices that's your problem! You can't blame a website for that child visiting it when it's not supposed to. I wasn't making a personal attack on you, just pointing out that PETA is a decent organisation and you're making them out to be some kind of animal Al Kida! If someone requests information from them then they provide it. Your child should have known what he was looking at while he was there. PETA is not there to pander, they're there to tell people what really happens to the animals who end up on your dinner-plate. If this upsets tender sensibilities then don't request the information! It's as simple as that.

Most people on this site can make up their own mind about something when they visit the linked website. If you'd've visited the site via the link above (yes, I note you say it didn't work for you, but it works fine for me and the other people who've thanked me for it; perhaps you need to update your browser?) then you would have seen what was on offer and not gotten on your "high horse" and felt the need to belittle PETA and the marvelous work they do!

There was no need to wreck an otherwise decent post of a freebie. Thankfully there are many more members who appreciate the efforts of others and don't come in on a post to slander the website offering said freebie.

loopylass

Thanks for this:D
I have just sent them an e-mail
It did say if you wanted to get some stickers and a poster then e mail them so i did

We are all animal lovers in our home so anything that helps put the message across to children is a good thing

Thanks again

flutterbybutterfly

Fenris wrote:

The PETA site does ask that you check a box to ensure the person is over 13, I did check.

For your information you don't need meat to live. I have a very good friend who's 27 and has never eaten meat in her life; she's very healthy and is only pale beacuse she lives in the UK and like us all rarely sees the sun!

As I said before, it's up to you to check that your kids aren't getting stuff they shouldn't. If you plonk your child in front of a computer and leave it to it's own devices that's your problem! You can't blame a website for that child visiting it when it's not supposed to. I wasn't making a personal attack on you, just pointing out that PETA is a decent organisation and you're making them out to be some kind of animal Al Kida! If someone requests information from them then they provide it. Your child should have known what he was looking at while he was there. PETA is not there to pander, they're there to tell people what really happens to the animals who end up on your dinner-plate. If this upsets tender sensibilities then don't request the information! It's as simple as that.

Most people on this site can make up their own mind about something when they visit the linked website. If you'd've visited the site via the link above (yes, I note you say it didn't work for you, but it works fine for me and the other people who've thanked me for it; perhaps you need to update your browser?) then you would have seen what was on offer and not gotten on your "high horse" and felt the need to belittle PETA and the marvelous work they do!

There was no need to wreck an otherwise decent post of a freebie. Thankfully there are many more members who appreciate the efforts of others and don't come in on a post to slander the website offering said freebie.

1. Obviously you were looking at a different PETA kids link than me as I have just double checked - again, it only asked dob.

2. I did not say you need meat to live. I said that if PETA encourage easily influenced kids and teenagers to turn veggie then they also have an obligation to inform them about adapting (especially a sudden change) a diet to make allowances for not eating meat i.e. you need to compensate with pulses or lentils to replace iron and other nutrients found in meat and not vegetables alone. The literature I read said nothing about that only scared kids off meat. Personally, I find that irresponsible. I am sure your friend has a healthy balanced diet as do my veggie friends.

3. Please don't tell me how to raise my kids. I am a responsible parent and occassionally kids do manage the odd misdemeanor. Although overall parental responsibility, I feel that there is a shared responsibility between parents are suitable websites to verify child access with parents. As I have said previously, most sites he has signed up to do just that. And don't assume my child is “plonked” infront of the computer.

4. Yes, most people on the site can make up their own mind. However I think it is justified to share a bad experience with someone, they don't have to take any notice of it if they don't want to. It is fair that someone is fully aware before signing up to anything like this, they might agree with the YGO poster (incidentally I never said I didn't) but, might be a bit shocked if they sign-up them/or child to receive further publications only to receive the stuff I did expecting it all to be like your poster.

5. I never slandered the website or "said freebie" (as I have clearly pointed out numerous times I was making no comment on the poster itself). I have only shared an experience, this does not constitute slander (I think you mean libel by the way).

6. I think that we could end up going round and round in circles with this one if we carried on. We obviously fundamentally do not agree on various issues so lets just leave it there and not take it personally. There was no intention to “wreck” your thread and I don't believe that I have done so. As you pointed out, anyone can look at the poster and make up their own mind.

Just a final note, we are an animal loving family with a dog and goldfish. Please don't infer that because I don't agree with you on each point, that I am not teaching my child to love and respect animals.

freebie_junkie

loopylass wrote:

Thanks for this:D
I have just sent them an e-mail
It did say if you wanted to get some stickers and a poster then e mail them so i did

We are all animal lovers in our home so anything that helps put the message across to children is a good thing

Thanks again

im an animal lover too and not one of them supposed ones who will eat a burger with one hand whilst petting teh family dog (you know that dogs are a delicacy in other countries rite?!)

my kiddies are gona have a "healthy, balanced vegetarian diet" and learn that eating a cow is just the same as eating teh family dog!

i dont think people should be allowed to eat animals if they only get them in nuggets or nice, clean slices. my dad grew up ona farm and started ringing chickens at 6, i respect the fact that he chooses to eat meat coz he knows weher it comes from and is prepared to kill and skin it. i think 10 is a perfect age to start finding out where mr macdonalds gets his happy meals.

freebie_junkie

flutterbybutterfly wrote:

We are animal lovers in this household, we just choose to eat how god intended us to.

thats only an argument if you belive in god. what a bizzare thing to post!

Fenris

flutterbybutterfly wrote:

1. Obviously you were looking at a different PETA kids link than me as I have just double checked - again, it only asked dob.

2. I did not say you need meat to live. I said that if PETA encourage easily influenced kids and teenagers to turn veggie then they also have an obligation to inform them about adapting (especially a sudden change) a diet to make allowances for not eating meat i.e. you need to compensate with pulses or lentils to replace iron and other nutrients found in meat and not vegetables alone. The literature I read said nothing about that only scared kids off meat. Personally, I find that irresponsible. I am sure your friend has a healthy balanced diet as do my veggie friends.

3. Please don't tell me how to raise my kids. I am a responsible parent and occassionally kids do manage the odd misdemeanor. Although overall parental responsibility, I feel that there is a shared responsibility between parents are suitable websites to verify child access with parents. As I have said previously, most sites he has signed up to do just that. And don't assume my child is “plonked” infront of the computer.

4. Yes, most people on the site can make up their own mind. However I think it is justified to share a bad experience with someone, they don't have to take any notice of it if they don't want to. It is fair that someone is fully aware before signing up to anything like this, they might agree with the YGO poster (incidentally I never said I didn't) but, might be a bit shocked if they sign-up them/or child to receive further publications only to receive the stuff I did expecting it all to be like your poster.

5. I never slandered the website or "said freebie" (as I have clearly pointed out numerous times I was making no comment on the poster itself). I have only shared an experience, this does not constitute slander (I think you mean libel by the way).

6. I think that we could end up going round and round in circles with this one if we carried on. We obviously fundamentally do not agree on various issues so lets just leave it there and not take it personally. There was no intention to “wreck” your thread and I don't believe that I have done so. As you pointed out, anyone can look at the poster and make up their own mind.

Just a final note, we are an animal loving family with a dog and goldfish. Please don't infer that because I don't agree with you on each point, that I am not teaching my child to love and respect animals.

To answer you on a point-by-point basis:

1) If you click the link in my original post and scroll down the page to the enquiry form, you'll clearly see that it asks that you check the box to confirm you're over 13. It's clear as day.

2) PETA, or any other organistaion, do not have an obligatory responsibility to do any such thing. In fact, some might argue that to do so would be to undermine the parent. As freebie_junkie says, she's happy to tell her children about what happens to animals before they're presented to a child in a Happy Meal. If you chose not to do so then that's up to you. But kids can't be kept in the dark forever. Obviously your child wants to know what's going on as he wouldn't have visited PETA in the first place. Either that or he was just after a free sticker. Once he's been informed of the veggie way of life, it's up to you to sit down and talk to him about it, take him to the doctor and get an opinion. PETA can't do these things for you. The only person responsible for your son is you.

3) I'm in no way telling you how to bring up your children. I was mearly stating that you obviously hadn't checked PETA's site to be sure that it was something you were happy with him viewing. As I said before, PETA are not an organisation telling children lies, they're there to tell children and adults alike what happens in the real world. Did you know that most inner city school children think that meat magicly apears on Sainsbury's shelves? Do you really want your child to grow up thinking this? Or is it just that you feel so bad about the way animals are treated by the big companies that you simply can't admit to your child that his meat is cruely butchered?

4) As I said before, anyone visiting PETA's website will know why they're there. That's one of the reasons I put PETA in the title of this thread, so that those who don't want to go there don't have to. If you read the website you know what kind of litarature you'll receive if you request more information.

5) I know what I wrote. Since this thread may be closed at any time, for any reason, it's considered slander; it's only libel if it's permanant.

As you say, we'll never agree with eachother. I just feel that you've given PETA a bad name when they didn't deserve it.

maccyroo

Why bring religion into things, it only antagonises situations and is totally unnecessary.

Of course approach PETA with caution, they exist to save animals from the misdeeds of humans. What do you expect to see in their publications, they are after all trying to stop you eating dead animals.