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banned from all marks and spencer stores?

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  • Tozer
    Tozer Posts: 3,518 Forumite
    If it was my daughter I would ask the Police to lock her up for the afternoon to teach her a lesson. Maybe the thinking time would make her wonder who her true friends are.

    Good job she is not your daughter then.
  • niccy
    niccy Posts: 597 Forumite
    lifetime ban

    Hmm

    that means she will have to shop at Primark


    and save a fortune over a lifetime


    result;)
    living on the "edge"
  • Optimist
    Optimist Posts: 4,557 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture
    A lifetime ban ! I have visions of the morning huddle or whatever they call their morning staff meetings in M@S all over the country having a most (not) wanted list distributed complete with pictures of people they wont serve.

    To the best of my knowledge M@S do not yet have face recognition software on their security cameras. So although some staff at your local M@S might remember for a while that that your daughter is banned I see no way they can make this ban effective nationwide
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  • Evie82
    Evie82 Posts: 340 Forumite
    My mum recieved a life time ban from M&S a few years ago for shoplifting, I was one very unhappy lady at that point i can tell you! :mad: I shouldnt have to be telling my own mum off about this!!!

    She now regularly shops in M&S and has never been confronted, infact i remember her going in with my nan about 6 months after the incident and nobody batting an eye lid. I think if she was in there with you, they would say very little, if she reappeared with a group of friends and they recognised her it would be a different issue.
  • Dave101t
    Dave101t Posts: 4,157 Forumite
    they have been banned from the property for stealing. the only reason to be on the property after this event is to steal again. hope they all get what they deserve, dare or no.
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  • Tozer
    Tozer Posts: 3,518 Forumite
    Dave101t wrote: »
    the only reason to be on the property after this event is to steal again. .

    Eh? :confused::confused:
  • my daughter was not involved in the incident but was guilty by assocation, the whole incident is still causing her sleepless nights and i was posting for constructive advice not rash judgements, so please offer me any constructive advice but if you feel the need to judge and condemn please keep your opinions to yourself. To everybody else thank you so much for all your posts they are much appreciated.
  • thcollar
    thcollar Posts: 6 Forumite
    Without making judgements on your daughter, and hoping this is constructive, it is worth knowing that stores HAVE become significantly more sensitive and better at what they're doing. It isn't sloppy, as one posted, for stores to be suspicious. Having been a store manager (not for M&S), I know the store is perfectly entitled to ban and keep a photo of those it doesn't want around. These photos are likely to have been circulated, depending on the paranoia of the chain.

    Be assured, it is highly unlikely anyone in Bournemouth or Hull or wherever M&S would recognise your daughter or be interested within the next few weeks. Usually, the only circulated documents are of those who have criminal records and are 'officially' banned (those who are known for repeated offences). But if the store has told the girl she is banned, she has to respect that; regardless of whether anyone like's the idea of 'guilt by association' or not.

    And this is not to judge your daughter, but it's wrong to say we have to stop tarring kids with the same brush. We shouldn't do it, obviously, but if she hangs around with people who do that, then SHE needs to be asking if they are friends worth having. It's not wrong to give a kid who thinks it's funny to nick something a slap on the wrist. It's her friends who should be worried, not her. Others have said it's unlikely to result in anything - particularly from the police - and as she's done nothing wrong, then she should be urged to stop worrying about it. No-one's going to bang her up. But she needs to stay away from M&S for a while. There's plenty of other places to go.

    And get friends who won't get her into trouble.
  • rev_henry
    rev_henry Posts: 4,965 Forumite
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    I'm afraid I don't have many words of constructive advice except to say that, at the end of the days, a shop is private property, whose owners can kick anyone they don't like out of without reason. It goes both ways; said banned person loses the privilege (NOT the right) of shopping there, shop loses business from said individual. M&S is not public property, its a private building open to the public.
    So, if M&S want to ban your daughter, or anyone else for that matter, they can and there's not a lot you can do legally. Although practically it probably won't amount to that, as people have already said.
  • Slim4Summer
    Slim4Summer Posts: 98 Forumite
    Did your daughter know they were stealing? If so and she still remained with them then I am afraid she is guilty by association - morally as well. She should have told them not to be so stupid and not to do it. If that wasnt possible for her, because of force of personalities/group dynamics, I'd be more concerned about getting her away from these "friends" - as this may be the tip of the iceberg and who knows what other dodgy activities they will lead her into?
    They are not ten years old - they are virtually fully grown adults and should know better- so this behaviour is not excusable as a childish prank in my view. It was a criminal act and the thieves are lucky to have got off as lightly as they did. If it had gone to court and your daughter had proved she didnt know what they were doing I dont think she would have been convicted however.
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