Dishwasher verses Washing-up

ixwood

What a load of rubbish about the energy. IMO Dishes don't actually need hot water. Or washing up liquid. Unless they're really greasy maybe.

What did people do before running hot water and washing up liquid was developed? And in poorer and less gullable/wasteful countries? It just another advertsing/brainwashing effect. If there's no bubbles it's not clean!!

I quick rinse stuff after I use it, put it in the bowl and every day or 2 wash up in a cold unsoapy water. Things really do clean well/properly. My glasses shine. Try it?

Saves money (heating water and washing up liquid), avoids nasty chemicals (start reading the labels on these things. It's all chemical crap!)
and is green (saves on plastic waste, transport pollution, and stops polluting out waterways and killing wildfife). Everyone's a winner!

ixwood

Oh and washing up without nasty chemicals doesn't ruin/dry your hands. Not that I overly care my about my soft hands like. lol. Just saying.

squeaky

bobbadog wrote: »

Can i just nosey in on this thread to ask something?

I live in a rented flat and we've only been there a fortnight - we have a dishwasher, but as there's only two of us and we don't have much crockery, I really have no intention on using it.... is this a bad thing? Will the dishwasher pipes or anything get dried out by me not using it? I dont want to damage anything.... May run it every now and then instead...

Yes, it would be a good idea to use it now and then. It's not just the pipes. The salt container normally holds water, and so does the water softener that most models have. Letting these dry out would not be good.

If you do the Old Style thing of having a cook-in and bake-in every now and then so that you can stock up the freezer with home made "ready meals" for the days when you don't feel like cooking, you'll probably find that there will be enough crockery and pots and pans to provide a full load.

squeaky

borderlakland wrote: »

i wouldn't be without mine.most of the time it goes on twice a day as their are 6(sometimes 7) of us plus pet bowls etc.i hate washing up by hand and odd time when mine has been broken i seem to spend half my day with hands stuck in the sink.
tbh i would rather be without a microwave than dishwasher:D

Yep!

I used to work for Servis (admittedly a long time ago) and they had done a time and motion study on housework.

They found that housewives spent a lot more time at the sink than they did doing laundry...

..so the conclusion was that a dishwasher should be the first household appliance you should buy!

Chipps

Hadley wrote: »

You are not supposed to put wooden items in the dishwasher because it will ruin them .

Maybe if they are very expensive items I wouldn't put them in, but my 2 wooden chopping boards (both wedding presents - and our 26th anniversary is next week) are fine despite having been dishwashed many times, same goes for wooden spoons (some of the same vintage).
I only have stainless steel cutlery (not silver plated, bone handled stuff - that wouldn't go in, obviously, if I had it) and about the only thing that never goes in is a coalport cake slice thingy, but that only gets used when we have celebration cakes eg birthdays etc.

GuidonTheBee

emmie1234 wrote: »

... Are there some attachments you can buy so that the cold water feed could do the DW and the WM and could the DW use the same waste outlet as the WM? ...

I did this in my old house - I bought a Y shaped connector from B&Q that fitted between the cold water feed & the WM hose so that I could connect 2 hoses & feed the DW & WM. Our waste outlet was a vertical open white plastic pipe that the WM hose just pushed into - I replaced the right angle bend where this connected at the bottom with a t shaped bit (B&Q again) & created a second vertical pipe behind the DW with some extra pipe & a bit of hacksawing

I tried to only run one machine at at time as the input pressure was obviously affected if they were both filling but it seemed to work Ok. I cant remember how much it cost, but it wasn't much - the extra plastic pipe & fittings were cheap & I think the main cost was the input Y connector & a new input hose for the DW.

KittyKate

I must say I'm in the DW fan club too. When I was a student a few years ago I got used to living in freezing, horrible, damp rented houses and I can honestly say that I was truly miserable standing at the sink, soaking wet (I'm very clumsy - I literally soaked my clothes when I washed up!!), washing greasy old pots and pans in tepid bubbles. (I appreciate it's not like this for everyone, but since then washing up has made me thoroughly miserable!)

My dishwasher came with my apartment, I think it's a SMEG, but as it's built into the kitchen (has a 'kitchen unit' front, as does everything, including the washer, so it all looks like cupboards) and it's just brilliant. We work long hours and it's so handy to fill it up and then set it off before work, coming home to sparkly pots and pans! It smells great too, thanks to a monthy hot cycle with white vinegar and a spot of bicarb in the drain.

I use fairy dishwasher tabs but only when they are BOGOF or very, very cheap (Superdrug did them at £3 for 35 at one point and I bought about 7 packs...wish I'd bought more!) I also cheekily nab a few finish tabs from work when I've run out (the cleaners don't mind). The only tabs I hate are the ones from Poundland - they scratch glasses. My FIL uses a tiny squirt of bleach and a tiny squirt of washing up liquid and this seems to work fine too!

student100

ixwood wrote: »

What a load of rubbish about the energy. IMO Dishes don't actually need hot water. Or washing up liquid. Unless they're really greasy maybe.

What did people do before running hot water and washing up liquid was developed? And in poorer and less gullable/wasteful countries? It just another advertsing/brainwashing effect. If there's no bubbles it's not clean!!

Um... before hot running water, people died a lot earlier and caught nastier diseases a lot easier... and smelled bad

ixwood wrote: »

avoids nasty chemicals (start reading the labels on these things. It's all chemical crap!)

I love the way some people who are averse to "chemicals" will happily drink water (H2O), breathe air (N2 + O2 + CO2 + ...), eat food (various hydrocarbons plus all sorts of other chemicals...), clean with vinegar (H2O + CH3COOH + ...) and so on...

KittyKate

student100 wrote: »

I love the way some people who are averse to "chemicals" will happily drink water (H2O), breathe air (N2 + O2 + CO2 + ...), eat food (various hydrocarbons plus all sorts of other chemicals...), clean with vinegar (H2O + CH3COOH + ...) and so on...

And nine times out of ten people who complain about bad chemicals will still happily drink coca cola (or chrome cleaner, as it's known!!)

ixwood

Of course, washing up without washing up liquid or hot water will kill us. Sily me.

I was only trying to help. Won't bother next time.

For those that are interested in saving money/energy, try it. It works.