list your job and wage

secretposter

"Yes I have total respect and pride for the full time charity work that I do that makes a huge difference to a lot of people in need.

What do you do that makes you a respectable person, if you are one?"

I pay your mortgage for a start. As does everyone else on this forum that pays tax. Charity work is all good and well and I have raised £000's for charity in my time whilst working full time and contributing towards the economy. I really am appalled by your brazen attitude to scrounging.

Suarez

secretposter wrote: »

"Yes I have total respect and pride for the full time charity work that I do that makes a huge difference to a lot of people in need.

What do you do that makes you a respectable person, if you are one?"

I pay your mortgage for a start. As does everyone else on this forum that pays tax. Charity work is all good and well and I have raised £000's for charity in my time whilst working full time and contributing towards the economy. I really am appalled by your brazen attitude to scrounging.

I have to agree. Could you imagine if everyone took this approach..

motorguy

dave4545454 wrote: »

Yes I have total respect and pride for the full time charity work that I do that makes a huge difference to a lot of people in need.

What do you do that makes you a respectable person, if you are one?

Personally, i work a 37.5 hour week, and pay my taxes and national insurance contributions.

It would appear i do so to keep people like you on the dole so you can spend your leisure time as you see fit? :eek:

It would appear, therefore we both have differing views of "being a respectable person"

John_Pierpoint

Pnutter wrote: »

Maybe, I'm based in Bern. Every expat seems to think their area is worst though...

I did a stint in Geneva, back in the 70s, when Britain was a basket case economically.
No problem with the Swiss though some were a bit reserved.
Thriving Frontalier settlement; but Geneva is a strange bit of Switzerland poking into France, like a big brother of Monaco. My son has worked there recently and it is much the same with a large number of international salaries being paid tax free (and a prostitution industry serving their needs).

http://www.frontalier.org/index-en.htm
http://icsc.un.org/rootindex.asp

kingrulzuk

Some years back in Edinburgh a couple who ware on benefit most of their life and had paid off the house loan. Sold their house and wanted to move somewhere in Asia. All their money was taken by the IR or the council I’m not sure I was just the kid then. The couple still in Edinburgh and people still call them benefit thieves.
Is it the same now???

John_Pierpoint

dave4545454 wrote: »

Yes I have total respect and pride for the full time charity work that I do that makes a huge difference to a lot of people in need.

What do you do that makes you a respectable person, if you are one?

Up to now I have ignored Dave, as I thought he was trolling.

I have a friend, a single bloke, who has managed dance round the benefits system, for the 25 years I have known him.
He is now 50 something, and now has paid off the mortgage on his own flat, though that could have been financed by a recent inheritance.
From time to time he has been forced by the benefits system to work as an intern for his benefits.
If you want to get a feel for his way of life think "Ed Reardon", but evolved from a science degree, not an English degree. So not good at interacting in society and resistant to authority.
He is prepared to turn out for some volunteer activities - say something environmental like clearing an old canal.
Basically he thinks everyone in the rat race is mad.
The jobs that are challenging enough for his intellect usually require team work.
The more self employed jobs, such as (say) courier van driving would not pay that much better than benefits and require a measure of self discipline and gritty determination to get the job done.
Basically 2/3rds of a working life spent on benefits has done him no favours and even now, if his benefits were stopped tomorrow, he would not starve, especially as he has mastered the art of living off the smell of an oily rag.

Perhaps he and Dave should compare notes on how to work the system.

I don't think they are alone - I can think of several other people who have frittered away the capital of their family and of this country and are now helping to borrow from our children.
We politically have offered them the choices and they have made their choice.
Is this worse than living beyond their means, sucking in needless imports on credit fired expenditure, and then going bankrupt?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Reardon%27s_Week
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/nov/20/personal-debt-mental-health-report

dave4545454

motorguy wrote: »

Personally, i work a 37.5 hour week, and pay my taxes and national insurance contributions.

It would appear i do so to keep people like you on the dole so you can spend your leisure time as you see fit? :eek:

It would appear, therefore we both have differing views of "being a respectable person"

As I do a 50+ hour working week including working Saturday and Sunday, I don't have much time for leisure time unlike you who does a lot less hours.

motorguy

dave4545454 wrote: »

As I do a 50+ hour working week including working Saturday and Sunday, I don't have much time for leisure time unlike you who does a lot less hours.

Working = performing an activity for which you get financial compensation.

What you are doing is "volunteering" to perform an activity, but expecting the rest of us to pay your living costs through the benefits you claim.

Big difference.

John_Pierpoint

No it is possible to work for nothing - some refer to it as a calling.,

dave4545454

motorguy wrote: »

Working = performing an activity for which you get financial compensation.

What you are doing is "volunteering" to perform an activity, but expecting the rest of us to pay your living costs through the benefits you claim.

Big difference.

Completely wrong.

Work by definition is the "physical or mental effort or activity directed toward the production or accomplishment of something". Look it up if you want, there is no mention of money in the definition of working.

'Volunteer work' is work, there is a hint in the title. Just because you associate work with money it doesn't mean everyone is as selfish as you, there are some people who do work to help others rather than any financial gain to themselves.