Save the Economy? SCRAP the NHS!

dervish

The vast majority of us pay more into the NHS than we will ever get out of it. It costs the country millions and billions of pounds.

SCRAP IT!

It is an outdated, anachronistic, white elephant.

We are the only country in the world with it! Why - becuase every other government realises that it costs TOO MUCH MONEY and that it WASTES money!

Knowing plenty of doctors, dentists etc I can tell you that all our taxes are being wasted on initiatives, ring binders of dtat, schemes etc. Too much middle management - not enough front line etc.

Solution is simple - abolish the NHS - the tax that people lose from their incomes could get them private health cover. If some of the lower classes prefer to smoke, drink or inject their incomes instead of paying for health care then damn them. They make their bed and they can lie in it,

In this ever deepening recession decent honest people who are hardworking or retired may jolly well ask "why should I subsidise the health of people?" They are right.

Its time as a country that individuals got responsibility of their own and didnt rely on the state to help them out!

The money saved on the NHS could go towards tax cuts and improving other infrastructure improvements such as widening motorways and a better and larger armed forces.

Heyman_2

What a great idea, and I really mean that. :rolleyes:

I suggest you go and watch the Michael Moore film, 'Sicko' to find out just how good (bad) the American system of private healthcare is and the origins of it.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Wide up?


or


Breakdown?

chewmylegoff

i do think that the NHS should be raising more money directly from the people that use it. somewhere between 10-25% of the cost should fall on the patients in my view. most other developed countries have a set up of that sort. perhaps we could adopt something similar to the finnish system where you pay small charges for access to healthcare, but there is a cap on the maximum amount payable each year, after which all care is free. introducing charging might also stop all those morons who clog up hostipals and doctors surgeries when they get a cold.

in other news, i expect dervish is just setting up another anti-immigrant rant, and will start harping on about "NHS tourism" soon.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

chewmylegoff wrote: »

i do think that the NHS should be raising more money directly from the people that use it. somewhere between 10-25% of the cost should fall on the patients in my view. most other developed countries have a set up of that sort. perhaps we could adopt something similar to the finnish system where you pay small charges for access to healthcare, but there is a cap on the maximum amount payable each year, after which all care is free. introducing charging might also stop all those morons who clog up hostipals and doctors surgeries when they get a cold.

in other news, i expect dervish is just setting up another anti-immigrant rant, and will start harping on about "NHS tourism" soon.

lets hope you dont ever need a 100k drug treatment program then.

GonzoAston

The NHS, IMHO one of the best things this country has. Yes, some doctors get paid alot of money, but when taking into account that they would pay alot more tax than the average person, they trained long and hard, and they work a hell of alot of hours for that money.

GonzoAston

Rollerball wrote: »

That doesn't make sense at all. Maybe then we should pay everyone a million pounds per years then, it'll be okay because we'll get £400,000 back in tax which is great?.

It does make sense I think. Doctors earning £200k a year will pay alot of tax from their pay back into the NHS.

Again with selective editing, I also said that they work a hell of alot of hours for that money and trained long and hard too.

Is that any clearer?

GonzoAston

Rollerball wrote: »

No, not really. You just can't pay a certain group in society x amount just because you'll get 40% of it back. That's the economics of the madhouse. Everyone I know works hard, doctors are no exception to that. The average wage is £25K per year, why should doctors get nearly 10 times as much?

Well, id persoanally prefer a doctor treating me for a stab wound, than a IT proffessional

They're taking peoples lifes into their own hands alot of the time. Do you think they should be on minimun wage? Average wage? Or a decent wage to entise people to take up training to be a doctor?

GonzoAston

Oh right. I was talking Hospital Docotrs, not GP's!

Wires crossed eh

mewbie_2

dervish wrote: »

The vast majority of us pay more into the NHS than we will ever get out of it.

Yep. That's how it's supposed to work.

wigglebeena

I would sooner pay a decent wad to a doctor than a bloody MP. I worked in a hospital briefly once and the young registrars worked their !!!!!! off, never mind the years of training and hard labour to get to that point.

I take it the children and babies of the !!!!less deserve to die if their parents have been improvident enough not to pay for expensive, complicated and frequently inadequate insurance?