TV has increased price

Pokerlad

djohn2002uk wrote: »

The inference being that an HD ready set could not produce a picture at 1080 lines because it was only HD Ready and they only have 768 lines. You seemed to concur with this idea.

A 'HD Ready TV' (1024x768 panel) can not display a 1080 (i or p) picture. What was said, and was agreed with, is that it can take a 1080 signal (1920x1080) but would need to down scale to its native resolution to display it hence losing detail which depending on the size of TV may or may not be noticable. What seemed to be suggested by you and the other poster was a 1024x768 TV (as this is what is known as "HD Ready) was taking a lower resolution picture and upscaling it to 1920x1080 which is not possible and hense was disputed (because the TV didnt have enough pixals to do that).

djohn2002uk

Pokerlad wrote: »

A 'HD Ready TV' (1024x768 panel) can not display a 1080 (i or p) picture. What was said, and was agreed with, is that it can take a 1080 signal (1920x1080) but would need to down scale to its native resolution to display it hence losing detail which depending on the size of TV may or may not be noticable. What seemed to be suggested by you and the other poster was a 1024x768 TV (as this is what is known as "HD Ready) was taking a lower resolution picture and upscaling it to 1920x1080 which is not possible and hense was disputed (because the TV didnt have enough pixals to do that).

It was not sugested by me at all. I told you that my set was HD Ready which it was. There were no Sony sets at that time labeled as Full HD. In fact 2yrs ago I don't recall any sets being labeled as Full HD. I also told you that my set and others labeled as HD Ready were capable of displaying a picture at 1080i or p. You were adament that no HD Ready sets could display at 1080.
You were wrong, as I told you then and have since showed you in post 24.
You now say that my set is full HD. The set was produced 2yrs ago by Sony who described it as HD Ready. Other manufacturers produced sets with similar specs and described them the same way. I knew this and told you so but you disputed it. So, ok all those makers were obviously wrong and you were right all along. I think not. End of debate.

Pokerlad

djohn2002uk wrote: »

It was not sugested by me at all. I told you that my set was HD Ready which it was. There were no Sony sets at that time labeled as Full HD. In fact 2yrs ago I don't recall any sets being labeled as Full HD. I also told you that my set and others labeled as HD Ready were capable of displaying a picture at 1080i or p. You were adament that no HD Ready sets could display at 1080.
You were wrong, as I told you then and have since showed you in post 24.
You now say that my set is full HD. The set was produced 2yrs ago by Sony who described it as HD Ready. Other manufacturers produced sets with similar specs and described them the same way. I knew this and told you so but you disputed it. So, ok all those makers were obviously wrong and you were right all along. I think not. End of debate.

You have actually got one thing right there, it is end of debate for me because I won't waste my time trying to help someone understand something when they quite clearly feel they know everything there is to know (even when there posts show otherwise).

But for the record, you never once said you had a Full HD panel, because I dont think you knew that. We only established that once you posted the spec. And the terms HD Ready and Full HD and their meanings when it comes to labeling a TV have been around longer then two years. You have posted lots on this thread that is factually wrong and I and others have pointed it out to you but you refuse to accept it. The sad thing is those in the know will see through it, but unfortunately those that use this forum to inform them what to buy may be mislead and lead them to buy a product not fit for there needs.

david39

As a belated comment for the OP, if he hasn't already made a purchase or been completely baffled by the various arguments put forward here, I went to my local Aldi's this weekend and was handed a leaflet for their bargains next week.

Amongst them is a 32" 1080 Full-Definition LCD television for £299.99 with 3 year guarantee. No make specified and I would need to read what it says on the box before I bought it but, assuming it is of even moderate quality, it's a bargain.
Also a BluRay player at £139.99.

Well worth a look - everything I have bought from Aldi in their oddment bargains has been excellent.

scotslad1983

Thanks David.. I made my purchase.. £400 for a 42" HD ready TV.. and its marvellous.

My old TV was a 24" CRT or something like that, so the difference is immense, and I thought I'd be talking four figures to get something so large. Looks great, so you can imagine I'm happy.

The only thing of note, was on the box it had two models that may be inside the box.. one HD-ready TV, and one full-HD TV, both the same model number.. hence the differing reviews!

Overall though I'm a happy customer.. and a bit baffled when i came back to this thread a week on! You can see where I was confused, when there's people on here who 'know what they're talking about' but disagree with each other!!

david39

Thanks, Scotslad

I'm glad you found something your happy with.

Yes, I agree about the range of people in this thread "who know what they're talking about" but end up arguing with each other.
However, they're not on their own - I found a proper Techie Forum on another website and exactly the same arguments going on on that one, too!
They'd gone even further and were arguing about the effect of video compression techniques and the effect, or otherwise, on HD-Ready and Full-HD pictures - but I don't want to open that can of worms.

Bet I have though !

samba

david39 wrote: »

However, they're not on their own - I found a proper Techie Forum on another website and exactly the same arguments going on on that one, too!
They'd gone even further and were arguing about the effect of video compression techniques and the effect, or otherwise, on HD-Ready and Full-HD pictures - but I don't want to open that can of worms.

I am in the market for a new TV and am looking for a 42" set with full HD capability, and preferably a plasma screen. I have spent the last few weeks reading up on all the techie forums about various brands of plasma TVs, and the only thing they all seem to agree on is that the Pioneer Kuros are the best to get, but weigh in at around £2000, so a bit on the pricey side. I'm sure any of the current crop of TVs are better than the one I have ( 32" CRT ), but the more I read the more I feel that I am better off sticking with the one I have and either wait till it breaks or there is a full complement of HD channels on Freesat / Freeview.

asbokid

guys! guys!

just slap 'em on the table and i will fetch my tape measure!

scotslad1983

In response to anybody checking this type of thread - one year on and I still love my TV, and think it was a great buy. My mate spent £1k+ on a HDTV (1080p I think) of a similar size, and while I still see a slight difference in the definition, its not worth the extra money. For an 'non-brand' I'm delighted that I've had absolutely no reliability problems whatsoever. I notice, only now, have priced dipped to anywhere near what I paid for a 42" telly.