Water Meter Unregistered

deanos

Yes it costs alot for new supplies there is no dening that,

But when the house was built it had 2 supplies put in, very common on older houses, to expect someone else to change the pipework for free just so you get one bill isnt very fair , do you expect them to change the internal piperwork for free too ?

asbokid

deanos wrote: »

Yes it costs alot for new supplies there is no dening that,

But when the house was built it had 2 supplies put in, very common on older houses, to expect someone else to change the pipework for free just so you get one bill isnt very fair , do you expect them to change the internal piperwork for free too ?

Nope.. i just explained.. the neighbouring premises was originally owned by the same people who owned our house...

the two neighbouring premises - one business and one residential - at one time shared the same mains water supply.. When the business premises was sold, it required its own supply.. at that point, severn trent should have capped off one of the redundant supplies.. but it didn't do so, because it is a supremely corrupt company, motivated only by short term profit.

the same situation - previously shared water mains - will exist in many dwellings across the country, and when those supplies are updated so that each dwelling enjoys its own supply, that's when the problems arise.. and rogue corporations like severn trent have no desire to rectify things in the correct way.. i.e. stripping out dead mains.

You seem strangely defensive of these thieving crooks who have tapped our natural water sources at great profit to themselves. Why so?

deanos

Sorry i missed the first line of your reply, i thought you had 2 internal meters and wanted one taking out.

Cardew

asbokid wrote: »

while i am at it, i might as well name the water company... severn trent... who were caught recently defrauding millions of their customers by deliberately overcharging them and had been stealing from them for years.

it was a vast theft that ran into tens of millions of pounds.. And what was OFWAT's answer - they are the regulator, safeguarding consumer interests, yes? Did they call in the cops? the SFO? Nope.. they told Severn Trent to give the customers a 50p refund... which Severn Trent marketed on the bills as a "Thank You!"

Thieves...

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Well of all the posts on this particular forum that must take the prize for the most inaccurate and biased!

The fraud(and it was fraud) was by an official who falsified the leakage figures to meet targets(in 2001 and 2002). Having met this target, it enabled them to charge customers a slightly higher tariff.

A whistleblower reported them, and they were absolutely guilty.

However you say :

And what was OFWAT's answer - they are the regulator, safeguarding consumer interests, yes? Did they call in the cops? the SFO? Nope.. they told Severn Trent to give the customers a 50p refund... which Severn Trent marketed on the bills as a "Thank You!"

Now your inaccuracies:

1. Ofwat fined the company £35.8million(£35,800,000.00).

2. ST were ordered to refund affected customers in full for the money they had been overcharged - £2.40 per household costing £10.8Million.

3. Ofwat reported the company to the Serious Fraud Office(SFO) who prosecuted them under the Water Industry Act for making false statements to Ofwat. In July 2008 Severn Trent pleaded guilty and were fined £2million(£2,000,000.00) with £200,000.00 costs. It was stipulated that the loss would be borne by shareholders and not customers.

It seems to me that Ofwat showed they had some teeth - and could bite.

Would you not agree?

asbokid

Spin and spittle from the horse's mouth, I see..

Now to your inaccuracies:

2. ST were ordered to refund affected customers in full for the money they had been overcharged - £2.40 per household costing £10.8Million.

"overcharged" actually means stolen. Severn Trent pick-pocketed its own customers.. And that £2.40 was actually only the average refund paid out as a "Thank You!" and if fell someway short of the total amount that Severn Trent is believed to have defrauded its customers..

As I said, all we ever got by way of reimbursement was a "thank you" refund of just 50p.

It seems to me that Ofwat showed they had some teeth - and could bite. Would you not agree?

What do you reckon? Which Severn Trent board members have gone to prison over this multi-million pound fraud?

Ofwat are a bunch of spineless industry stooges.. No good to man nor beast.. They should be dunked in the Thames and fed to the water rats.

Cardew

asbokid wrote: »

Spin and spittle from the horse's mouth, I see..

Now to your inaccuracies:

2. ST were ordered to refund affected customers in full for the money they had been overcharged - £2.40 per household costing £10.8Million.

"overcharged" actually means stolen. Severn Trent pick-pocketed its own customers.. And that £2.40 was actually only the average refund paid out as a "Thank You!" and if fell someway short of the total amount that Severn Trent is believed to have defrauded its customers..

As I said, all we ever got by way of reimbursement was a "thank you" refund of just 50p.

It seems to me that Ofwat showed they had some teeth - and could bite. Would you not agree?

What do you reckon? Which Severn Trent board members have gone to prison over this multi-million pound fraud?

Ofwat are a bunch of spineless industry stooges.. No good to man nor beast.. They should be dunked in the Thames and fed to the water rats.

Stolen! overcharged! call it what you want. Nobody is defending ST - they got what they deserved.

Few people, including myself, think that an essential monopoly service should be handed to private industry.

I appreciate you have a problem with ST and Ofwat, and this seems to have coloured your judgement in this case.

You said Ofwat did not report ST to the SFO - when in fact they did report them to the SFO.

You said the only action was they told ST to refund 50p to customers. They fined them £35.8Million and ordered a refund of £2.40 which covered the £10.8million the scam/theft/overcharge realised.

Rant as much as you want about Ofwat - but at least get your facts correct.

I note no admission that you got it completely wrong - but I suggest those reading this thread will make their own judgement!