html frames on a website?

ipodchick2144 · 14 May 2009 at 10:53AM

i am at the moment creating a website for my cousins business and i want it to look as professional as possible, i'm thinking frames are a really easy way of doing this, although can anyone tell me where in the html coding do you put the frame codes is it between the body tags or between the head tags?
Thanks:rolleyes:

hotkee · 14 May 2009 at 10:57AM

between body tags and some of the frame tags can be before the body tag depending upon what you expect to do - helpful init

frames not a good idea for web development!

timbim_2 · 14 May 2009 at 10:58AM

Frames are not a way to make a website look professional. That would be CSS.

ipodchick2144 · 14 May 2009 at 11:07AM

i find parts of that a little too hard to understand sometimes. Its been years since ive developed a website using html and flash etc

isofa · 14 May 2009 at 11:07AM

Frames are an old hang up from early web days, and shouldn't be used today, although some people do use them for hidden headers, it's not ideal.

kwikbreaks · 14 May 2009 at 11:16AM

Using frames can be a simple way to produce non public pages for the purposes of admin etc. but they really shouldn't be used for public pages.

There are at least two main problems...
poor search engine ranking
orphan frames (where one of the pages that should be framed gets indexed in place of the frameset. That probably means you've lost the navigation as a typical use would be to have a menu as one of the pages in the frameset.
Both can be overcome but it really isn't the way to go anyway.

If you still want to use frames here is a template...

<html>
  <head>
    <title>Stats</title>
    <meta name="ROBOTS" content="NOINDEX,NOFOLLOW">
  </head>
  <frameset cols="120,*" framespacing="0" border="0" frameborder="no">
    <frame name="Menu" src="menu.htm" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" noresize frameborder="no">
    <frameset rows="*">
      <frame name="Content" src="report.php" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="no">
    </frameset>
    <noframes>
      <body bgcolor="WHITE">
        Sorry - your browser does not support frames
      </body>
    </noframes>
  </frameset>
</html>

===

Forgot to mention - that is a page I don't want indexed (in fact I also use robots.txt to exclude the entire directory it's in) For a public page you'd need search engine friendly stuff in the header and some content in the noframes section.

JimMoneyExpert · 14 May 2009 at 11:17AM

I agree that frames are old hat now and you'd be better off investing time to use CSS. Once you get the hang of it, you'll never use frames again!!

squeaky · 14 May 2009 at 11:24AM

As has been said, frames have their drawbacks, but for any area of web page writing google can be your friend. It doesn't take long to build up a collection of free tutorial websites which often have working examples.

So if you're stuck on a particular instruction or need the way I use google is to search on things like the following...

HTML div tutorial

or

css div tutorial

or

javascript div tutorial

Then work my way through the results until I find a good site which I then bookmark.

Here's a google search for frames...

google HTML frames tutorial

ipodchick2144 · 14 May 2009 at 11:29AM

squeaky wrote: »

As has been said, frames have their drawbacks, but for any area of web page writing google can be your friend. It doesn't take long to build up a collection of free tutorial websites which often have working examples.

So if you're stuck on a particular instruction or need the way I use google is to search on things like the following...

HTML div tutorial

or

css div tutorial

or

javascript div tutorial

Then work my way through the results until I find a good site which I then bookmark.

Here's a google search for frames...

google HTML frames tutorial

Thank you,

i know they can have their drawbacks but i like the idea of them somehow i always have, i like it how the link opens in the frame instead of a new window or refreshing the full window that you are on. My only problem is that ive already sorta made up what i want the homepage to look like now im going to have to change it all about to fit in with frames

gutted! wish i had thought of it before lol. I suppose its easier than having to make a html drop-down menu.

ipodchick2144 · 14 May 2009 at 11:33AM

and in what part of your html code into ur website do you add this code? between the body or head tags?

kwikbreaks · 14 May 2009 at 11:33AM

> now im going to have to change it all about to fit in with frames

Do your cousin a real big favour by not doing that. Believe what everyone here has told you - DON'T USE FRAMES.

html frames on a website?

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