Accident at school

bandraoi

sabz_saver wrote: »

I repeat again A brocken arm requiring a operational procedure cannot be compared with a minor bump or fall, and yes that pun was intended for individuals who cant tell the difference between a minor accident and a brocken limb, requiring numerouse operations!!!!!:rotfl:

At the age of five I was playing football outside with my friends. I fell and landed awkwardly on my left arm. It was sore, I cried, went inside for a bit to be babied. It was still sore but I went back outside, played, ate my dinner etc.
It was still sore three days later so my Mum took me to hospital.
I had cracked my wrist and needed a cast.

My mother is a doctor.

If she couldn't tell with all her training and experience, there is no way in hell that a teacher can be expected to tell the difference between a minor fall with some bruising/a nasty sprain versus a broken arm. Saying it needed an operation is no indication of the severity or even the apparent severity of the break. The child was in pain and his parents were called, any other action would have been entirely inappropriate.

squidgeworth

I'm a nurse and mother of three under 10's.
My youngest fell of a climbing frame, was given calpol and a bag of sweets (to ease his hurt pride!!). Next day I thought it looked 'a bit odd' and took him to casualty. Fractured arm diagnosed.
The school did the right thing.

peachyprice

sabz_saver wrote: »

I repeat again A brocken arm requiring a operational procedure cannot be compared with a minor bump or fall, and yes that pun was intended for individuals who cant tell the difference between a minor accident and a brocken limb, requiring numerouse operations!!!!!:rotfl:

And for the beneit of those individuals who cannot read previous posts: There is no way on earth the school could have known that the arm was broken, let alone needing an operation.

Unless of course you think the OP happens to be lucky enough to be at a school staffed entirely by retired orthopedic surgeons

peachyprice

emlou2009 wrote: »

at the risk of getting my head bitten off, as a parent with feelings rather than a person banding around opinions on wasted use of nhs resources, i would probably be in a panicked state myself and unfit to drive and therefore wouldnt hesitate to call an ambulance if something like this happened at home .

That's exactly why the school didn't make a big thing of it when they phoned OP.

melancholly

peachyprice wrote: »

And for the beneit of those individuals who cannot read previous posts: There is no way on earth the school could have known that the arm was broken, let alone needing an operation.

Unless of course you think the OP happens to be lucky enough to be at a school staffed entirely by retired orthopedic surgeons

i think the school acted pretty fairly - but i also think the suggestion that calling an ambulance for those kind of injuries is also entirely reasonable. saying the school was acting for the best and by their own regulations is one thing, but posters telling the OP people who would use an ambulance in that situation are shameful wasters of NHS resources seems unfair to me!

peachyprice

melancholly wrote: »

i think the school acted pretty fairly - but i also think the suggestion that calling an ambulance for those kind of injuries is also entirely reasonable. saying the school was acting for the best and by their own regulations is one thing, but posters telling the OP people who would use an ambulance in that situation are shameful wasters of NHS resources seems unfair to me!

I didn't

galvanizersbaby

emlou2009 wrote: »

actually, from experience, i've had to call for ambulances on numerous occasions, mostly while at work and once at home, and usually the ambulance has arrived before i'm even off the phone. it would probably be different in a rural location but in a town or city a ambulance would nearly always be quicker, and a paramedic assessment would put a parents mind at rest prior to the agonising and long wait in A&E.

at the risk of getting my head bitten off, as a parent with feelings rather than a person banding around opinions on wasted use of nhs resources, i would probably be in a panicked state myself and unfit to drive and therefore wouldnt hesitate to call an ambulance if something like this happened at home and there was a clearly broken bone, i would be scared of making it worse in transport too.

I'm wondering if the school had called the OP and asked if she would like them to call an ambulance/paramedic out what sort of state she would have arrived at the school/hospital in?

I think the school did what I would have expected but perhaps I'm just a bit of a strange laid back mum

My own children have had some pretty horrible injuries at home but I guess I've just managed to stay calm and take them to a&e - on sort of auto pilot I guess - even if I am thinking OMG :eek:
On the plus side both my kids especially my son (the more accident prone one of my 2!) have stayed pretty calm - figured if they see my scared and freaking out they will do the same

A lot of people are posting about when they were a kid and broke a bone - I recall breaking my wrist at middle school (hurdles on the running track) - it was painful and I complained about it but I guess the school nurse didn't suspect a break - when I got home mum sent me off to Brownies as usual and it wasn't till teatime that mum asked dad to take me down to a&e and of course it was x-rayed and had to be pinned as it had broken awkwardly.
Think mum must have felt a bit guilty as got a lot of sweeties and a whole day off school to recover! :rolleyes:

Zazen999

I think the OP gets the message.

bonty44

Where is OP, I'm interested in what the school had to say and how the issue has been resolved.

andyrules

sabz_saver wrote: »

I repeat again A brocken arm requiring a operational procedure cannot be compared with a minor bump or fall, and yes that pun was intended for individuals who cant tell the difference between a minor accident and a brocken limb, requiring numerouse operations!!!!!:rotfl:

aka most qualified medical personnel, even with the aid of high tech equipment? Injuries don't present with a diagnostic label you know. If you didn't know, I suggest you actually take the time to read the thread as there are numerous explanatory examples.

In fact, even with knowledge that the arm was broken, do you seriously believe it justifies calling an ambulance? If schools called for help for every injury, each would have to have its own designated ambulance, plus A&E department. Just stop and think - we have a finite number of resources - and whilst they are sticking bandaid on a child's scratch or acting as taxi service for 'walking wounded', someone's parent/child/sibling etc is suffering from a heart attack/RTA/stroke/etc and will surely die without immediate expert intervention.

I've seen an ambulance called 3 times in my career at school - once for an unconscious child with a known medical condition, and twice during rugby matches - neck injury and compound fracture. All fully justified and thankfully arrived speedily as they were not tied up with 'walking wounded'.

Personally, I find it quite alarming that someone with such little understanding of emergency procedure has a decision making role in a school.