Accident at school

sabz_saver

sabz_saver, I believe the correct procedure would probably be for the OP to raise any concerns (if they have any) with the headteacher first, and then there will be a proper complaints procedure to be followed if necessary. A governing body should act in a corporate manner and not as individuals, a parent governor is not there to solely represent parents.[/QUOTE]

Yes I understand this, but if the party concerned would speak to the parent Governor, to voice their concerns regarding the way in which this had been handled, then the governor could raise this issue to the head teacher, and this would then be brought up in the meetings, to see where improvements, if any, could be made. If you re-read what I posted, I was not implicating "that a parent governor solely represents parents". Thankyou.

Looking at this Dillemma from a professional and moral view, is bound to have differences in views, as far as I am concerned, this is my view, and the way I feel the school should have dealt with this. There is no right or wrong answer. Thankyou!

andyrules

sabz_saver wrote: »

I understand the each school has a different policy and are not medically trained, and ok a bocken arm may not be life threatning, but please remmember that the child is 5and underwent an operation. Therfore as well as the child being distressed, the child did require a operational procedure and in a situation like that I would like my five year old child to be seen by a paramedic whilst I made my way to the school. yes I understand every policy is different, but we are talking about a small 5 year old child but I am sorry to break the news that a broken arm requiring a operational procedure is SERIOUS and im sure the school should have seeked medical advise!! Please talk to your parent governor about how this situation was handled! If you took you child to school with a broken arm think about the implications....... but yet again its cool when the situation is the other way round. I dont think the school dealt with this situation properly.

I am a parent governor, and have a five year old child

So you think that each time a child sustains a bump or fall should schools should call out the paramedics? I think you should go back and read the thread and the comments and explanations that have been made.

Actually, I'm not even sure you aren't having us on - 'I'm sorry to break the news' - is that an ironic pun? :rotfl:

sprogs

sabz_saver wrote: »

sabz_saver, I believe the correct procedure would probably be for the OP to raise any concerns (if they have any) with the headteacher first, and then there will be a proper complaints procedure to be followed if necessary. A governing body should act in a corporate manner and not as individuals, a parent governor is not there to solely represent parents

Yes I understand this, but if the party concerned would speak to the parent Governor, to voice their concerns regarding the way in which this had been handled, then the governor could raise this issue to the head teacher, and this would then be brought up in the meetings, to see where improvements, if any, could be made. If you re-read what I posted, I was not implicating "that a parent governor solely represents parents". Thankyou.

Looking at this Dillemma from a professional and moral view, is bound to have differences in views, as far as I am concerned, this is my view, and the way I feel the school should have dealt with this. There is no right or wrong answer. Thankyou!

It should be raised with the headteacher by the parent before any involvment from the governing body - assuming that is the first step in the complaints procedure which I believe to be the norm in most schools.

Therefore if a parent voced a concern with a parent governor that governor, in the first instance, should direct the parent in the appropriate manner according to the complaints procedure. Normally this would be the headteacher.

It should only be taken to a governing body meeting if there were serious issues that could not be resolved via the schools complaints procedure (which may ultimately mean involment from the governing body) or there was health and safety problem that needed recording and resolving.

scrimpingbadger

Fractures in children are hard to gauge and also some children make more fuss than others (justifiably in this case). Sometimes it's impossible to tell.
I broke my leg at school (fell off the monkey bars) and the dinner lady made me walk back into school on it. They rang my mum who had to take me to hospital 25 miles away for an x-ray. She wasn't impressed - as you are not. But it's a tricky situation to guess at.
Hope your little one is feeling better and flaunting that cast like mad.

blue_monkey_2

sabz_saver wrote: »

I understand the each school has a different policy and are not medically trained, and ok a bocken arm may not be life threatning, but please remmember that the child is 5and underwent an operation. Therfore as well as the child being distressed, the child did require a operational procedure and in a situation like that I would like my five year old child to be seen by a paramedic whilst I made my way to the school. yes I understand every policy is different, but we are talking about a small 5 year old child but I am sorry to break the news that a broken arm requiring a operational procedure is SERIOUS and im sure the school should have seeked medical advise!! Please talk to your parent governor about how this situation was handled! If you took you child to school with a broken arm think about the implications....... but yet again its cool when the situation is the other way round. I dont think the school dealt with this situation properly.

I am a parent governor, and have a five year old child

Not being funny but do you really think they would blue light a paramedic to a child with a hurt arm and that that 'paramedic' would get there quicker than you could? Maybe if they had fallen from 10ft or had been hit by a car but otherwise I think they might have more important things to do.

Apendicistis (sp) is serious, you can die from that if it bursts and it still requires an operation but I'll expect to take that child to hospital by car. Unless the child was incapacitated or bleeding so profusely that I had to stem that bleeding there is absolutely no way an ambulance could arrive at that school quicker than a parent 15 miles away. That ambulance is also probably 15 miles away - maybe more - as they have huge areas to cover so you should really think about this before expecting to have the entire NHS drop whatever they are doing as a child has hurt it's arm.

A paramaedic will be sent to conditions that are potentially life threatening as they are able to administ life saving drugs and have more training than ambulance crew. Someone could die of a heart attack while the paramedic is looking at a hurt arm that nothing could be done with until they get to hospital. A paramedic is there to save lives, not to answer every single emergency call for hurt toes, arms and indigestion!!

This parent could clearly get to hospital quicker than an so they called the parent.

And I am also a parent govenor with 2 young children at school.

Some people need to get a grip!! The entire NHS is not at one person's beck and call they are there for emergencies only. Life or death emergencies or if someone is incapacitated or bleeding profusley (that would be life or death).

To add, I am sure they knew the parent was 15 miles away - if the parent was 150 miles away I am sure the situation would have been much difference, but I can drive 15 miles in 15-20 minutes and I'd certainly not expect an ambulance to be called in that time.

emlou2009

blue_monkey wrote: »

there is absolutely no way an ambulance could arrive at that school quicker than a parent 15 miles away. That ambulance is also probably 15 miles away - maybe more - as they have huge areas to cover

actually, from experience, i've had to call for ambulances on numerous occasions, mostly while at work and once at home, and usually the ambulance has arrived before i'm even off the phone. it would probably be different in a rural location but in a town or city a ambulance would nearly always be quicker, and a paramedic assessment would put a parents mind at rest prior to the agonising and long wait in A&E.

at the risk of getting my head bitten off, as a parent with feelings rather than a person banding around opinions on wasted use of nhs resources, i would probably be in a panicked state myself and unfit to drive and therefore wouldnt hesitate to call an ambulance if something like this happened at home and there was a clearly broken bone, i would be scared of making it worse in transport too.

sabz_saver

"emergency call for hurt toes, arms and indigestion!!"

I dont think the above is at all similer to a brocken arm which required operational procedures.

and what about a parent who did not have access to a car or afford a cab, you'd rather the child was dragged around in pain on public transport?

sabz_saver

andyrules wrote: »

So you think that each time a child sustains a bump or fall should schools should call out the paramedics? I think you should go back and read the thread and the comments and explanations that have been made.

Actually, I'm not even sure you aren't having us on - 'I'm sorry to break the news' - is that an ironic pun? :rotfl:

I repeat again A brocken arm requiring a operational procedure cannot be compared with a minor bump or fall, and yes that pun was intended for individuals who cant tell the difference between a minor accident and a brocken limb, requiring numerouse operations!!!!!:rotfl:

zfrl

sabz_saver wrote: »

I repeat again A brocken arm requiring a operational procedure cannot be compared with a minor bump or fall, and yes that pun was intended for individuals who cant tell the difference between a minor accident and a brocken limb, requiring numerouse operations!!!!!:rotfl:

I think if you read the early posts you will find that it did not look like a serious injury.

Where has the OP gone?

sprogs

zfrl wrote: »

I think if you read the early posts you will find that it did not look like a serious injury.

Agreed.

It is possible to fall from a great height and not break anything, equally possible to have a small fall but to land awkwardly and do some major damage.