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Sutton's default removal letters

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  • **dancingbutterfly**
    **dancingbutterfly** Posts: 774 Forumite
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    edited 17 May 2009 at 1:32PM
    thanks EVER so much n-i-d. your brill!!:T

    ok i'll get the letters sorted theyre going to the same dca and get them posted tomorrow!

    its all a bit over my head iykwim! but im trying to understand it all!

    so hopefully they'll remove the defaults from my record. or i may get my money back? (i know very doubtful!)

    or they might do nothing?

    thanks again!

    katie

    EDIT!
    n-i-d
    ive just read your last post and youve answered my questions there! sorry! thanks mate! i'll let you know what i recieve!
  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    thanks EVER so much n-i-d. your brill!!:T

    ok i'll get the letters sorted theyre going to the same dca and get them posted tomorrow!

    its all a bit over my head iykwim! but im trying to understand it all!

    so hopefully they'll remove the defaults from my record. or i may get my money back? (i know very doubtful!)

    or they might do nothing?

    thanks again!

    katie


    Ok, so you send two cheques, 2 letters in two envelopes and pay for two recorded deliveries. I know it sounds mad but these cannot be bundled together as each is separate.

    Yes is the answer to other points, they don't have to really do anything and can simply refuse. However, that said they will know that the CCA is more than likely to be wrong, and as a result they take the risk that you are serious in your threat to enforce removal via county court. If this happens they would also have to refund you plus pay compo and costs so could backfire on them.

    Thus I said right now it is a poker game, if they play along and agree to remove then you win. If they refuse, you stick and call their bluff with CCA request (all in this one letter). If they send the CCA and refuse to remove data we then check the CCA for enforceability. If it isn't enforceable then we win - we threaten county court action for enforcement to remove the data plus compo and costs.

    So all depends what they write back.....

    Whatever happens PM me so I don't miss your posts/deadlines.
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • Innocent_Guy
    Innocent_Guy Posts: 5,369 Forumite
    Ok, so you send two cheques, 2 letters in two envelopes and pay for two recorded deliveries. I know it sounds mad but these cannot be bundled together as each is separate.

    Yes is the answer to other points, they don't have to really do anything and can simply refuse. However, that said they will know that the CCA is more than likely to be wrong, and as a result they take the risk that you are serious in your threat to enforce removal via county court. If this happens they would also have to refund you plus pay compo and costs so could backfire on them.

    Thus I said right now it is a poker game, if they play along and agree to remove then you win. If they refuse, you stick and call their bluff with CCA request (all in this one letter). If they send the CCA and refuse to remove data we then check the CCA for enforceability. If it isn't enforceable then we win - we threaten county court action for enforcement to remove the data plus compo and costs.

    So all depends what they write back.....

    Whatever happens PM me so I don't miss your posts/deadlines.
    NID would the above not be applicable to my friend?
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  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    NID would the above not be applicable to my friend?

    you never got back to me on it did you or i'd have done your letter! That will teach you won;t it! LOL :beer:
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    NID would the above not be applicable to my friend?

    Yes mate and a letter very similar to this, in fact almost identical to this, would do it. Remember no promises - it is a gamble and may backfire!

    #187
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • Innocent_Guy
    Innocent_Guy Posts: 5,369 Forumite
    Yes mate and a letter very similar to this, in fact almost identical to this, would do it. Remember no promises - it is a gamble and may backfire!

    #187
    Well he has sent the S10 so I think we should wait for a reply from that. They cannot provide CCA!!!

    Where I worked prior to my new job, we had just introduced an "electronic signature pad" this was used for getting clients to electronically sign the CCA and therfore a copy electronically saved!
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  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    Well he has sent the S10 so I think we should wait for a reply from that. They cannot provide CCA!!!

    Where I worked prior to my new job, we had just introduced an "electronic signature pad" this was used for getting clients to electronically sign the CCA and therfore a copy electronically saved!

    Why did you tell him to send the s.10? nutter!

    they are legally entitled to process the data as we both know, you usually find a flaw then demand a s.10! not issue the demand before you have anything to bargain with!
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • Innocent_Guy
    Innocent_Guy Posts: 5,369 Forumite
    Why did you tell him to send the s.10? nutter!

    they are legally entitled to process the data as we both know, you usually find a flaw then demand a s.10! not issue the demand before you have anything to bargain with!
    He does have a bargain, they have no CCA so he doesn;t have to pay the debt. He is more than willing to pay the debt providing they remove the adverse data
    Bank Accounts - Barlcays Premier[/B] - £1000 o/d, HSBC - £200 o/d- First Direct - £500
    Credit Cards - Barclaycard £2000 - Silver Card £1300 - Flybe £7500 - HSBC £1000 - First Direct £2500 First Direct Gold £3000
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  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    He does have a bargain, they have no CCA so he doesn;t have to pay the debt. He is more than willing to pay the debt providing they remove the adverse data

    Eh? since when have they not provided the CCA? Have you already issued the CCA request? Then the warning letter, then the s.10? If so then all is fine. I thought he had already paid the debt?

    When they write back, come see me before you tell him to respond cos i'll guide you in right direction mate.

    Pointless second guessing cos anything could happen but I think you'll find they will argue it out a little.
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • Innocent_Guy
    Innocent_Guy Posts: 5,369 Forumite
    Eh? since when have they not provided the CCA? Have you already issued the CCA request? Then the warning letter, then the s.10? If so then all is fine. I thought he had already paid the debt?

    When they write back, come see me before you tell him to respond cos i'll guide you in right direction mate.

    Pointless second guessing cos anything could happen but I think you'll find they will argue it out a little.

    Yeah CCA request, failed to supply, sent s10 request
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    Credit Cards - Barclaycard £2000 - Silver Card £1300 - Flybe £7500 - HSBC £1000 - First Direct £2500 First Direct Gold £3000
    6 credit accounts closed in 2010!

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