Scrappage is already becoming a sellers market.

Inactive

I find the silly thing with the so called " scrappage " offer is that the donor vehicle has to have a valid MOT ... erm why?...it is going to be scrapped anyway.

You can be almost certain that part of the £1000 being paid to discount new cars by you and me .. the tax payer, will find it's way in to the hands of greedy car sellers, by crafty price increases.

novazombie

Inactive wrote: »

I find the silly thing with the so called " scrappage " offer is that the donor vehicle has to have a valid MOT ... erm why?...it is going to be scrapped anyway.

You can be almost certain that part of the £1000 being paid to discount new cars by you and me .. the tax payer, will find it's way in to the hands of greedy car sellers, by crafty price increases.

No its actually a very bad time to be a car seller. Cars have never been cheaper, values are falling faster than house prices.

I wouldnt like to be in the car salesman trade now.

alared

novazombie wrote: »

Cars have never been cheaper, values are falling faster than house prices.

Disagree,cars have ALWAYS cost more here than abroad.
Ford and vauxhall have recently INCREASED their prices by at least 5%.
The government have now interfered and played right into the greedy car salesman`s hand.
Try going to a dealship with NO trade-in and cash in your hand

---

they still wont give you a good deal.
Prices have gone UP,when, with fields full of thousands of new cars,you would expect them to go down.

Rip-off Britain is alive and still kicking.

photome

DealDrivers wrote: »

The change in price is because the dealer is having to use £1k of his discount allowance to pay the mfr's obligatory £1k scrappage contribution.
Discounted cars are just that..already discounted. The £2k reduction is to be achievable off published list price, not off already- discounted deals...you cannot have both i.e. double-discounting.

So waht is the point of the scrappage scheme, if cars are cheaper by not using it?

Nylontokyo

photome wrote: »

So waht is the point of the scrappage scheme, if cars are cheaper by not using it?

Exactly - what the point.

Well said.

alared

From what I can gather the gov. is "giving" £1k and on a £10k car will get back £1,500 in VAT.
The car people are expected to cough up the other £1k.
Hardly an incentive,that`s why the car prices have gone up,they`re trying to recoup their £1k.
Total farce as usual from this washed out gov.

vaio

photome wrote: »

So waht is the point of the scrappage scheme, if cars are cheaper by not using it?

Another example of government trying to fool punters into thinking they are getting a good deal when they aren’t and it really results into a hand out to the manufacturers and increased take to the exchequer via the vat take

mikey72

alared wrote: »

Disagree,cars have ALWAYS cost more here than abroad.
Ford and vauxhall have recently INCREASED their prices by at least 5%.
The government have now interfered and played right into the greedy car salesman`s hand.
Try going to a dealship with NO trade-in and cash in your hand

---

they still wont give you a good deal.
Prices have gone UP,when, with fields full of thousands of new cars,you would expect them to go down.

Rip-off Britain is alive and still kicking.

If it's rip off Britain, you could always convert your pounds into euros and import your own, if you think Vauxhall and Ford must be cheaper there.

ukjoel

The problem manufacturers have is the funding is limited and nowone knows when it will run out. Most are presuming it will last 12 weeks which means they are only willing to sell physical stock - and not order anything in.

They also have to pay for disposal of old vehicle so your right it has limited benefits and thats why prices arnt reallly moving.

Some manufacturers have been accused of putting list prices up (blaming the euro) in anticipation of this to allow them to show even more spectacular discounts when scrappage was introduced.

Germany have a much bigger concern with jobs and the economy of the car sector. The UK - well its all about banking and finance. You can see where the money went.

Tolkny

Nylontokyo wrote: »

Exactly - what the point.

I think the point is to stimulate trade.

As my Dad would say when he was spending, "What's Round goes round"

It stimulated me to get a new car, in 2 days time. A one litre Vauxhall Agila Club, pre registered 31/3/09, so not in the scrappage scheme for £6,995.00"

I needed to replace my 16 year old 2 litre Renault Espace, which has an MOT but has major engine problems that seem not economically repairable.

I was initially thinking of getting as small a vehicle as possible for up to about £4,000. When I knew about the Scrappage I thought it was a chance too good to miss, especially as I could get an environmentally friendly vehicle low Vehicle Excise Duty (£35). I am currently paying £185. Lower insurance, warranty for three years so repairs unlikely. Hopefully vehicle will last about ten years like the Vauxhall Corsa I had until a few months ago. (we are a two car family as we live in an area where public transport and distance from town means two cars are essential to be involved in "life" independent of my wife at similar times).

That Vauxhall Corsa cost about £6,500 in 1998 when it was 18 months old. It seems that car prices therefore have risen slower than inflation.

I did not get a scrappage deal in the end because it turned out the dealer had this pre reg vehicle in stock and the earliest I could get a similar vehicle was 6 weeks time and for about £500 more even with the scrappage amount. The car I am getting had been heavily discounted. It seems that the influx of buyers has removed those discounts, I suspect car sales figures will be much higher by June and will then ease off again.

I am happy to pay VAT as a former public service worker, who got a stable pension against a lowish salary for a demanding and stressful job with responsibility for life and liberty I recognise the Government needs income to pay my pension, now £1400 per month net - so not a fortune.

So as I began maybe the Scrappage idea has stimulated sales and as we have become even more of a trading rather than manufacturing nation, that maybe good for all our incomes in the long run.