kitten in neighbours garden - not welcome!!

lowis

mrcol1000 wrote: »

I don't think its anti-cat to not want a cat trailing through your garden all the time. I think its a bit aggorant to assume that your cat should be allowed to go wherever it wants. I can appericate that cats are far different to dogs and cats roam around but please don't think that people should have to put up with it.

people can humanely deal with the issue, without cuasing injury to the cat though by folowing some of the suggestions above.

i don't particularly like screaming sugar-loaded brats running around restaurants and shops, knocking into me or getting in the way whilst their parents coo at them as if they are the most adorable things in the world - instead of smacking the child though (something i would never do, but using it as an example of an irresponsible reaction) i would just politely ask the parents to keep their children under control in public spaces if they are causing a nuisance.

its the way you deal with things that matters...Yorkie Pud seems to have thier head screwed on when it comes to this subject.

mrcol1000

lowis wrote: »

i don't particularly like screaming sugar-loaded brats running around restaurants and shops, knocking into me or getting in the way whilst their parents coo at them as if they are the most adorable things in the world - instead of smacking the child though (something i would never do, but using it as an example of an irresponsible reaction) i would just politely ask the parents to keep their children under control in public spaces if they are causing a nuisance.

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The difference is that you wouldn't expect the sugar loaded brats to invade your garden, go to toilet on it and kill any small animals or birds in it and then be expected to have to put up with it.
I do love cats and would have one but with my dog it would end in tears (probably the dogs) but I really can't stand cat owners who seem to assume their cat can do what it wants, where it wants and then claim no responsiblity for it. Either the cat is a pet and so your responsiblity or its a wild animal that is fair game to whatever if it causes a nusiance

Notsosharp

GracieP wrote: »

No, the neighbour has a right to not want somebody else's animal on her property and it is the owner's responsibility to stop that from happening. Which the OP fairly accepts.

An owner can't stop a cat from wandering, it what cats do and because they are classed as feral then there is no law stating a cat must be kept under control. As for dogs, there are laws in place that say they must be kept under control so of course its different when a dog wanders.

If you live in a neighbourhood with a lot of cats then there must be other cats that come into her garden, surely yours can't be the only one? If she doesn't like it then she can soak the cat with water and I am sure it will soon get the hint its not welcome in that particular garden, or perhaps you could offer to get her some cat repellant or something?

Sorry I don't have many suggestions as to what to do I think your neighbour is being over the top somewhat, especially when the cat isn't causing any harm. And please don't get rid of it just to please your neighbour. She should perhaps maybe learn to be a wee bit more tolerant. I have three cats myself and I have cats that come into my garden to check out the guinea pigs but a quick squirt with water or running out causing as much noise as possible usually scares them off.

Notsosharp

mrcol1000 wrote: »

. Either the cat is a pet and so your responsiblity or its a wild animal that is fair game to whatever if it causes a nusiance

No, cats aren't "fair game" to whatever causes it a nuisance, they are still classed as someone's property and you can be sued or prosecuted for property damage and I know of a case where someone was successfully sued for trespass to goods or something similar.

It really does make me angry when people think "oh they are just cats" they aren't, my three are much loved family pets and woe betide anyone who causes them harm.

Oh and by the way, we are more likely to cause far more significant harm to the wildlife then any cat could.

cte1111

Cats wander into other people's gardens, it's what they do. I can't see what the problem is here really, your neighbours kids are pleased to see the cat, and he isn't causing any problems. I can understand that you want to keep on good terms with your neighbour, but I think you need to have another chat with them, and see what their expectations are. I don't think it is reasonable or practical to expect to be able to 'train' a cat to not climb fences and have a wander around. If they are very anti-cat, then there are lots of suggestions on here as to how they can try and dissuade your kitten from visiting them.

mrcol1000

Notsosharp wrote: »

No, cats aren't "fair game" to whatever causes it a nuisance, they are still classed as someone's property and you can be sued or prosecuted for property damage and I know of a case where someone was successfully sued for trespass to goods or something similar.
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Okay, so then, the owners of the cat have a responsiblity that they don't cause a nusiance to other people. To respect someones property works both ways. Surely?

Notsosharp

I think you probably could be sued for nuisance if your cat kept escaping into a garden and destroying it but to be perfectly honest I don't know. And I would say a cats owner is probably under a duty to try and make sure that the animal doesn't cause any damage but that is hard to do if the cat wanders.

I think the difference is if a cat damages your property its not a deliberate act of its owner and like I said before a cat owner is not liable the same way a dogs owner would be. If you deliberately went out to harm a cat then that would be different and there is now a law in place that says you mustn't deliberately cause suffering to any animal and that includes cats.

lowis

mrcol1000 wrote: »

The difference is that you wouldn't expect the sugar loaded brats to invade your garden, go to toilet on it and kill any small animals or birds in it and then be expected to have to put up with it.
I do love cats and would have one but with my dog it would end in tears (probably the dogs) but I really can't stand cat owners who seem to assume their cat can do what it wants, where it wants and then claim no responsiblity for it. Either the cat is a pet and so your responsiblity or its a wild animal that is fair game to whatever if it causes a nusiance

...no i wouldn't, as much as i wouldn't expect them to be rude, noisy and uncontrolled in public spaces. but it happens. problems like this can however be dealt with politely and in a nice way. most responsible cat owners would deal with the issue of their cat being a nuisance politely i would assume.

Mutter_2

Well done momaluce for caring. I too don't think our animals or children for that matter should get in others way.
I find shaking an opened newspaper most effective at shooing cats away. Not very money saving to feed the birds only so a cat may eat them.

YorkiePud_3

mrcol1000 wrote: »

I don't think its anti-cat to not want a cat trailing through your garden all the time. I think its a bit aggorant to assume that your cat should be allowed to go wherever it wants. I can appericate that cats are far different to dogs and cats roam around but please don't think that people should have to put up with it.

Never said it was, you took my post the wrong way!

I meant there were some people who take complete umbrage if a cat chooses to simply use their fence to walk along en route elsewhere, not actually coming INTO their garden ... most of us don't mind if that happens (it's just when they come into our gardens and do their mess we kick off, quite rightly of course!) but if the cat's just walking along the fence on its way someplace else, then that is hardly an offence.