advice re: renting part furnished plus landlord leaving his car at the property!

barnaby-bear

tbs624 wrote: »

...and of course the burglar alarm sounding during a genuine emergency would not physically prevent access, merely draw people's attention to the fact that emergency access had been attempted

Quite in no way could any damage be claimed for the alarm sounding.

barnaby-bear

Erica_Norman wrote: »

Thanks for that link..strangely enough..I know the people that own the site..they live just down the road from us!..I like the idea of an intruder alarm..are we allowed to install one in a rental property?
We do have a burgular alarm but we are not allowed to change the code

It's freestanding you aren't installing anything - it's like having a vase in your house. LL's who store stuff and think they have the right of access can be a nuisance. You wouldn't be changing *their* alarm code.....

googler

Had to laugh at the webpage with the PIR detector - but only a Scotsman would;

"Free delivery to England, Wales & Scottish borders - please contact us for price to Isles, Islands & Highlands"

It seems there's a black hole where Lanarkshire, Central Region, Lothians, Fife, Ayrshire and Grampian currently sit....

googler

barnaby-bear wrote: »

It's freestanding you aren't installing anything - it's like having a vase in your house. LL's who store stuff and think they have the right of access can be a nuisance. You wouldn't be changing *their* alarm code.....

...but if you do leave it freestanding, and a real burglar comes in, what's to stop him or her from picking it up and putting it in a heavy rucksack or similar to silence it? Or throwing it in the WC and putting the lid down? Or chucking it in the washing machine and closing the door?

Find some non-permanent way of attaching it to something solid, like a banister or handrail, using plastic cable ties, or some kind of security chain.

tbs624

googler wrote: »

It seems there's a black hole where Lanarkshire, Central Region, Lothians, Fife, Ayrshire and Grampian currently sit....

Either means that there is a low crime rate in those parts so nobody needs to buy such things or they all have nowt worth nicking/protecting;)

franklee

googler wrote: »

...but if you do leave it freestanding, and a real burglar comes in, what's to stop him or her from picking it up and putting it in a heavy rucksack or similar to silence it? Or throwing it in the WC and putting the lid down? Or chucking it in the washing machine and closing the door?

Find some non-permanent way of attaching it to something solid, like a banister or handrail, using plastic cable ties, or some kind of security chain.

The already fitted burglar alarm would be the one to detract the burglars but not the LL's parents if they know the code. I thought the purpose of the portable shed alarm in this case would be simply to tell if someone with the key and existing burglar alarm code had been in. If the portable shed alarm is moved to down the loo or in the washing machine then the alarm has done it's job it doesn't need attaching to anything.

Erica_Norman

I think I may get the portable alarm..then at least I will know if they have been in as have been over to the house today and am pretty sure someone has been in again!!..They obviously think it doesnt matter as they have been told we are not officially moving in until weds..im not amused

poppysarah

Erica_Norman wrote: »

I think I may get the portable alarm..then at least I will know if they have been in as have been over to the house today and am pretty sure someone has been in again!!..They obviously think it doesnt matter as they have been told we are not officially moving in until weds..im not amused

Get one tomorrow.

They are seriously in the wrong if they are coming in without permission.

Erica_Norman

Have bought intruder alarm today..no more unannounced visits!

sooz

tbs624 wrote: »

Why not? Because the alarm would go off if an anyone, including the LL, the LL's parents or an LA, entered the property without your consent and you'd be fully aware that they had done so?

I would have no qualms at all about changing a burglar alarm code for the duration of my tenancy and would view it as a useful security measure to do so. LLs can put whatever clauses they like into their tenancy agreements but they'd need to be able to fully justify them in a court if the clause was challenged as an unfair contract term.

Just make sure you either change it back at the end of the tenancy to the original code, or inform the LL & agent in writing of the new code. If you don't give them the new code once your tenancy is up, you may well find a bill for the call out to have the alarm unit reset.