Car Scrappage Scheme

James123_2

Andy_McDonald wrote: »

I've followed this thread all the way through and done full research via dealers. For me, it comes down simply to a choice between a £4,095 white Kia Picanto or a bottom level Hyundai i10 Classic, at £4,999 (you can have any colour in the range within the price ). Posters say that the Hyundai, though about £1,000 more money than the Kia (20% up), is a much better specification & car overall. I accept that the Hyundai has a 5 year warranty, against the Kia's 3 years. I am aware that the Hyundai has the littel actually used air conditioning. I'm unconvinced by other merits of claiming vast superiority, having had a test drive in both cars. If you are at this rung of money, what real difference does a few extra "bits and pieces" make? Convince me that I am wrong, please.

The build quality of the i10 is leap years ahead of the Picanto. It's from a totally different era. And that's before you start to add-up all those costly extras. It's also a lot safer vehicle and will perhaps have a better resale. Equally, the lack of central locking and the 'any colour so long as it's white' issue with the Picanto is a bit of a restriction for me. Still, it's £800 cheaper & they're both on at really sensible money - a new car for under £5k. Either way, I don't think you can lose!

Andy_McDonald

Many thanks to poster James 123 and the earlier poster for the very helpful responses on my question re: Kia or i10. That's just the stuff that I want, so as to be able to make an educated choice. You really can help me (and all other non-mechanically minded people) with your constructive comments. I'd just say to James123 that, at the 5k level, the Kia at a 20% lower buying cost (even if in white) has a clear edge on price and needs to be effectively "shot down" on spec & performance. Much gratitude to all, in anticipation of further assistance.

Ps - does anybody think that other low-price manufacturers like Suzuki may come out with better deals over the next week or so?

Andy_McDonald

The Kia Picanto does have central locking. Not a remote control though, but neither does the Classic (bottom of range) Hyundai i10. The Kia also, like the Hyundai, has front electric windows (manual at rear).

Andy

sabretoothtigger

After a Renault dealer offered me a zero deposit, free finance deal for five years on a £14,100 M!gane Expression, I cheekily asked if I could accept his offer but pay only £12,100 via the scrappage scheme.
Surprise, surprise – no, I could not.

Peugeot appears to be offering a combination of fairness, clarity and flexibility to people enquiring about the scrappage scheme (which, incidentally, still hadn't been finalised a week after the Budget and doesn't kick in for another couple of weeks).

Yet Peugeot says its 308 Verve 1.4, for example, has a list price of £15,295. With the £1,000 scrappage bonus, plus £1,000 from Peugeot, the car is reduced to £13,295.
But Peugeot is offering a further £2,300 saving, enabling the customer to pay just £10,995. And if the consumer doesn't have a scrapped car to trade in? "Then he pays £11,995 instead of £10,995," a saleswoman told me.

This is the most genuine and generous scrappage offer from any manufacturer at present. And the icing on the cake is that you can be a part of it whether or not you have a car to scrap. Brilliant.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/caradvice/mrmoney/5258289/Scrappage-isnt-much-use-to-anyone.html?state=error#postacomment

James123_2

Andy_McDonald wrote: »

The Kia Picanto does have central locking. Not a remote control though, but neither does the Classic (bottom of range) Hyundai i10. The Kia also, like the Hyundai, has front electric windows (manual at rear).

Andy

Thanks to all. Interesting about the Picanto. I knew about the electric windows, but did have it confirmed by a Kia dealer that the entry-level Picanto wouldn't come with central locking of any description. Indeed, the dealer offered to fit it for me. The brochure makes no mention of it either. I will double-check. For my money, I'd rather have central locking than electric windows anyday - especially on a five door car!
Good luck to all.

greenoak

I ordered a Hyundai i10 Classic which ends up at £5850 with metallic paint. The bottom of the range in Red is about £4750 but sold out for months to come.

I was happy to pay the extra for the better extras, alloy wheels, remote central locking etc

My verry tatty rover bought for £1200 4 years ago has seem 60.000 miles but is really only fit for scrap yard and bodywork is poor and getting parts a nightmare unless from scrapyard. I know I would need to change headlight for MOT plus other stuff so this was a great scheme for me.

£120 a month for my loan. I know the car will be perfect for my son to learn to drive in and I tend to keep my cars for a long time. 25 years of driving and this will be my 6th car.

On the Kia issue I was seen by the worst salesman ever. There is a massive diff between the kia and the i10. The engines are not the same any more. The Hyundai is a 1.2 now.

Coaster_2

greenoak wrote: »

I ordered a Hyundai i10 Classic which ends up at £5850 with metallic paint. The bottom of the range in Red is about £4750 but sold out for months to come.

I was happy to pay the extra for the better extras, alloy wheels, remote central locking etc

My verry tatty rover bought for £1200 4 years ago has seem 60.000 miles but is really only fit for scrap yard and bodywork is poor and getting parts a nightmare unless from scrapyard. I know I would need to change headlight for MOT plus other stuff so this was a great scheme for me.

£120 a month for my loan. I know the car will be perfect for my son to learn to drive in and I tend to keep my cars for a long time. 25 years of driving and this will be my 6th car.

On the Kia issue I was seen by the worst salesman ever. There is a massive diff between the kia and the i10. The engines are not the same any more. The Hyundai is a 1.2 now.

Are you sure that is wasn't a Comfort spec for £5850?

The new 1.2 engine is not just bigger capacity, it is much better. I test drove the 1.1 earlier in the year and was impressed by how much of an improvement the 1.2 was when I had another test drive at the end of April.

bagboy_2

I ended up buying an i10 es, I know it has the 1.1 engine but the spec on the car is so much better than the classic.
I'm not really that worried about the engine as both me and the wife didn't notice any difference when we drove both cars,
and for £5100 (in red) it's great value :j

BB

James123_2

Hmmm, as the wait for all the above vehicles seems to be an optimistic 3-4 months, I'll still have to re-MOT my current vehicle (due in July) which may detract from any benefit if this proves to be expensive. Unless I've misunderstood then the scheme is not really a goer unless you've a very long current MOT and/or a garage with hidden supplies.

Derek_Duval

bagboy wrote: »

I ended up buying an i10 es, I know it has the 1.1 engine but the spec on the car is so much better than the classic.
I'm not really that worried about the engine as both me and the wife didn't notice any difference when we drove both cars,
and for £5100 (in red) it's great value :j

BB

Yes I have to agree, my mum's just ordered one, the extras seemed to be worth more than the 100cc. The only small drawback is the 1.1 needs a cambelt change at about 60K (dealer said about £200, so not a big issue), where the 1.2 is chain driven.