Some Benefits should be given in forms of vouchers instead of cash

misskool

I don't see what this would solve. If you are on benefits and you receive a sum of money, it's up to you what you choose to spend your money on. If you choose to eat unhealthy foods and smoke, that's your freedom of choice.

dog1

robpw2 wrote: »

n.b .. i can cook and so can my partner and he was made redundant and now is on jsa whilst trying desperatly to get work not all people on benefit eat in any of those fast food restraunts

OK then, but some do frequently, and if I'm working, and can't afford to take my kids there, who's the stupid one then?

looby75

d!!! wrote: »

I was referring to the 1000's who have NEVER worked and never intend to.

The ones you see pushing buggies around wearing baseball caps, with a staffy at their side.

The one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is DRUGS, that's where their money goes, it's not all fags and booze you know.

Read my whole post, don't just select one sentence and attack me.

pardon me for not being a mind reader . No where in your original post did you say you were referring to long term benefit claimants, you simply said that people on benefits were plain lazy.

I was merely pointing out that that isn't the case and it's unfair to stereotype.

Also not all long term benefit claimants are on drugs or mistreat their children or pop them out at a rate of knots, yet again stereotyping helps no one.

dog1

misskool wrote: »

I don't see what this would solve. If you are on benefits and you receive a sum of money, it's up to you what you choose to spend your money on. If you choose to eat unhealthy foods and smoke, that's your freedom of choice.

It appears to be an idea to restrict the use of the funds more than anything else. At least the kids will get their school meals free I expect.

Give a man a fish and he'll expect one every day, teach him how to fish, and he'll catch his own after that.

looby75

d!!! wrote: »

It appears to be an idea to restrict the use of the funds more than anything else. At least the kids will get their school meals free I expect.

If you are on benefits they are already entitled to free school meals

dog1

looby75 wrote: »

If you are on benefits they are already entitled to free school meals

I wouldn't know that, I've been lucky enough to have worked all my life since leaving school. I also pay for my prescriptions, dentist, school meals and clothes etc. I also pay 20% income tax and 15% vat on most things.
If you don't "know the system", you do appear to be at a disadvantage sometimes.

SingleSue

d!!! wrote: »

I wouldn't know that, I've been lucky enough to have worked all my life since leaving school. I also pay for my prescriptions, dentist, school meals and clothes etc. I also pay 20% income tax and 15% vat on most things.
If you don't "know the system", you do appear to be at a disadvantage sometimes.

As did a fair few people now on benefits, in some cases, higher rate taxes.

dog1

SingleSue wrote: »

As did a fair few people now on benefits, in some cases, higher rate taxes.

That's one of the annoying things in this country for the lower paid, you'd be better off not working!! But I'd rather have the self respect of working for a living if the work is available.

looby75

d!!! wrote: »

I wouldn't know that, I've been lucky enough to have worked all my life since leaving school. I also pay for my prescriptions, dentist, school meals and clothes etc. I also pay 20% income tax and 15% vat on most things.
If you don't "know the system", you do appear to be at a disadvantage sometimes.

I am genuinely please to hear that you have never been unlucky to have been unemployed. It's no fun believe me.

But that said it's often people who have never needed to use the benefits system that have the strongest opinion on it's failings and those who do need the system. I'm not for one second suggesting you aren't allowed to express your views but when you are on the outside looking in it's very easy to judge and look down at everyone on benefits. The vast majority of benefits claimants DON'T WANT to be on them.

lostinrates

d!!! wrote: »

OK then, but some do frequently, and if I'm working, and can't afford to take my kids there, who's the stupid one then?

re fast food, IMO the promlem is how cheap it is...and what nutritional costs are.

You can feed a child a burger for about a pound. I beleive it has lots of nasties in it, a bit of salt and sugar, and its not rally a balance diet. Especially if they take the single lettuce leaf or tomato out of it. I could make a burger at home for the same or less, if I bought the meat loose, but it wouln't be the best meat, but more to the point I could provide a more balanced diet on a regular basis for that, more filling. BUT if I were to feed the equivalent meals but with decent quality meat (e.g. a buger or chicken nuggets home made every day) I don't think I could do i for the price of a cheap fast food joint. Esecially if I had no access to space to grow salads etc. I'm very happy to stand corrected though, I admit I've never worked out what it would cost to make burger and chips severn nights a week!