Unemployment: Dole to go up £60 a month in budget

mewbie_2

PN - I absolutely hear where you are coming from.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

I am not a people person,.

yet you have us all wrapped round your little finger

mewbie_2

lostinrates wrote: »

yet you have us all wrapped round your little finger

What works on here, doesn't necessarily cut it in the real world. For example I can make little witticisms, argue, agree, whatever and it goes along quite nicely. But it's so much easier when there is time to compose, edit, delete, or just not bother posting - than dealing with interactive human conversation.

Say the wrong thing and it really doesn't matter very much. Have to be a lot more guarded in the 'office'. Even though most of them seemed to have learnt their 'skills' by copying David Brent.

lostinrates

mewbie wrote: »

What works on here, doesn't necessarily cut it in the real world. For example I can make little witticisms, argue, agree, whatever and it goes along quite nicely. But it's so much easier when there is time to compose, edit, delete, or just not bother posting - than dealing with interactive human conversation.

Say the wrong thing and it really doesn't matter very much. Have to be a lot more guarded in the 'office'. Even though most of them seemed to have learnt their 'skills' by copying David Brent.

Oh I agree, but that doesn't mean we're not people and that the majority of us like her.:)

I'm vile in real life

mewbie_2

lostinrates wrote: »

Oh I agree, but that doesn't mean we're not people and that the majority of us like her.

I like her too. I was telling 'my' story, not trying to claim how PN might be.

And I am quite vile in real life. I can't help it. Do I care that it's so and so's birthday / wedding / funeral / whatever? No I don't give a !!!!!!. And I find it hard to pretend.

Cleaver

PasturesNew wrote: »

My work experiences have been that you're there to work, not socialise. Any social events outside of work are mostly confined to the Xmas Do - at which partners are invited and it's pricey and I'd have needed an outfit I couldn't afford. Other nights out tend to be meals, where some idiot wants to split the bill (after they've had 3 bottles of wine with them/their wife and the king prawn dishes)... other people have always had more money to splash about than me for socialising, so it's out of the question as it's expensive. Also, people go to work and they have their own lives/partners and go home to them, people don't socialise with people they work with much.

Not talking about socialising per se. It's about confidence building to just talk to people at work, communicate with people you maybe wouldn't be good friends with normally, laugh with people, learn to pursuade and influence others, 'socialise' in terms of building work relationships. You're there to work, but any work environment without any of the above is an unatural environment and, I'd argue, not effective.

I lost 3-2 at squash by the way.

tomterm8

misskool wrote: »

so, someone could go to work part time, at minimum wage to earn 12k a year or they could just sit at home all day and watch jeremy kyle without needing to do anything?

I'm offended that my taxes are being raised so the long term unemployed get more benefits

Don't forget that the actual amount someone takes home, if they are on minimum wage, is more than their salary. People on minimum wage are still eligable for a number of benefits.

fc123

PasturesNew wrote: »

I've been temping and they were all going out on a night out when I'd been there about 2 weeks. They were talking/organising it over and around me, nobody asked if I wanted to go.

Then the bosses bought them all an easter egg... I didn't get one.

Being a temp sucks really because you're not seen as human, you're seen as somebodyy who flies in, covers/does a job and is gone.

Still comes over to me that you are suited to self employment/Own business. Then you get to choose who you work with (if you need help) or solo.

I am still in touch with ex staff I had employed 2 decades back.

I know it's easier said than done, but it is the a priviledge that I think I may have taken for granted over the years. Reading threads like this reminds me.....stops me having a moan about the other stuff.

fc123

Anyone who thinks I am vile and a a pain just doesn't stay around in my working life very long.
They choose not to do business/work with me or vice versa. Same as in social life I guess.

I am dead annoying in Real Life. Talk too much.

Francesanne

It's about time. We have family living in Dublin and their benefits are very generous compared to the U.K.
Think they might be a little too generous because no real incentive to look for work.