Unemployment: Dole to go up £60 a month in budget

SingleSue

My vision is probably pretty normal to everyone else but to me it is huge.

I dream of going to the supermarket and just filling up the trolley with the things we want and not worry about how much it is going to cost.

I want a car less than 6 years old.

I want to take my children to Disneyland Paris for New Year.

I want to treat my parents to a day trip on the Orient Express.

Yes, I am boring :rotfl:

LizzieS_2

Looks like we have one very upset OP, £15 never came out!

MiserlyMartin

Cleaver wrote: »

Actually, pretty much all studies show that the vast majority of people do not work only for the money, and that salary is pretty far down the list of important, motivating factors for most employees.

Sure, I'd never underestimate the importance of salary as a factor: it's the first thing that jumps out at people and can often be a factor that attracts or keeps employees. But it is one factor of many, and certainly not the most important. Job satisfaction, feelings of pride and value in people's work, a sense of achievement and the advancement through a variety of roles that challenge people will always trump salaries for most people (and nearly all studes show this). Increasingly more important to a the new generation of workers (born post '82 / '83) is ethical work aspects, flexible working, non-financial benefits such as encouraged sabaticals and travel. A recent really interesting study surveyed young workers (i.e. under 30) and nearly half working for uninspiring companies stated that they would swap a payrise to get involved with new initiatives such as company sponsored community and volunteer projects.

Of course, you may have a job you hate that you do soley for cash. But, whilst this may seem the norm to you, it's not the norm for the vast majority of people.

I think that survey is bull. How many of you on here would really honestly forego a payrise to do volunteer projects? Do you work for pittance or in a low paid job and enjoy it Cleaver?

MiserlyMartin

JayScottGreenspan wrote: »

If you had unlimited free time to pursue your dreams and goals as you wish, would you watch Jeremy Kyle? When I was unemployed I spent about an hour a day looking for work and the rest of my time enjoying being alive and without obligations.

Free time is effectively 'units of life' which you can choose to 'spend' as you wish. If you find this prospect unattractive, what's the point of life at all?

I think the point I was making was that people do sit on their backsides doing !!!!!! all and watching daytime TV. At our expense. Sad but they do.

geoffky

Theres millions of jobs out there for everyone...isn't there?

StevieJ

You were all moaning last week that JSA was too low and was predjucial to the poor single guy who lost his job, but raining cash on the single mother with three kids I hadn't read this thread before.

Mr_Mumble

StevieJ wrote: »

You were all

Sloppy wording there, we're not a single hive mind trying to defeat your socialist utopia StevieJ. We're individuals .

moaning last week that JSA was too low and was predjucial to the poor single guy who lost his job, but raining cash on the single mother with three kids I hadn't read this thread before.

Getting £60pw is a little different to being a preferred member of society, i.e. anyone who pops out a sprog and is given freebies worth tens-of-thousands. My very early reply in that thread linked to a story in the Times gave an example of a poor single guy who was homeless and had no job and had to repay JSA for selling the Big Issue. A bed in a hostel and social help for anyone living on the streets doesn't seem to be asking too much when £180bn per annum is spent propping up benefits Britain.

Cleaver

MiserlyMartin wrote: »

I think that survey is bull. How many of you on here would really honestly forego a payrise to do volunteer projects?

Why have you misinterpreted what I've said? Why am I even replying? You've simplified it to one choice - payrise or volunteer work. That isn't what I said. It depends on so many other factors.

Whether you think it's bull or not, it's true. Many investment banks are (or maybe were) finding that when their star bankers (chortle) were millionaires by the time they were in their 30s. So how do you motivate them? Another million quid? Who cares that much if you have everything you want? Well, how about a four day week and a fifth day working in partnership with a homeless organisation, using some of the bank's profits? Or an offer of three months unpaid to go to Africa to work in an orphanage with your costs covered by your employer? You can think what you like, but these are becoming increasingly popular.

You may find this a strange concept, because you might be 100% money orientated (again, studies show this is very, very rare - it's a 'satisfier', not a 'motivator'), but it's becoming more and more apparant.

MiserlyMartin wrote: »

Do you work for pittance or in a low paid job and enjoy it Cleaver?

I work in a well paid job I really like. I've worked in very low paid jobs I've really liked too. I've also worked in one, specific, really well paid job. And I hated it. And no amount of money in the world could have kept me doing it 9-5.

As I said in my post months ago, salary is like heat, light, food, water - it's a fundementally important essential. Very, very few people would do a job for free. But once you're getting paid, you get motovated and excited by far more factors than just money, especially if you relatively well paid.

sundries

I guess that is what all the people who have been made redundant are thinking. they are all going to stay on benefits sucking up the taxpayers money - which they are already doing.