Windows Vista

thewizard

Oh well, 800MB of i supose we'll have to get used to it, as the benefits out way the slight problem, but future releases of all OS's will start to be using more RAM and HDD space, after all XP is the last in the current generation OS. Vista is space age technology, I can see Macintosh releasing a similar OS using just as much resources. Its just technology moving on. Pretty soon you wont be able to get a computer without a 3D Graphics card and at least 2GB of RAM.
We're just gonna have to get used to it.

And as to Vista not liking FAT32 HDDs thats a good thing NTFS is more secure and allows you to use dynamic compression, seen in Windows XP.

Fenris

Poppycat wrote:

You can get those extras in Firefox as extenions. I dont trust MS for security, they fail miserably and are always a target for rif raff

Exactly. Don't get me wrong, there are time when I have to use IE, but it's not out of choice. I wouldn't download IE7 on it's own as I just don't see the point. You could be right, it might be smashing, but while Firefox gives me the same fuctionality I won't bother. At the end of the, thewizard sumed it up perfectly; as long as most people are still chugging along using IE, those of using Firefox or Opera or whatever other browser you fancy, are safe from spotty-oiks trying to flood our PC's with viruses and lord-knows what else!

I do like Windows, I just don't like IE...and this from someone who always used to swear by it!

Stephen_Webber

There is some good info on the different versions here.

Stephen

lee__48

As far as I can see Microsoft are re-releasing a product that should have been updated a long time ago.

I'm glad MS are taking security seriously. I can't believe anyone thought it was a good idea to make the default user an administrator account and share the C: drive with your entire network, also by default.

As far as IE7 goes, I'm looking forward to using the function whereby the page your viewing is adjusted so that it fills your desktop, which would avoid those horrible white spaces you get on most websites.

About the 800MB of RAM, I feel programmers are getting lazy. When memory was expensive programs had to use as little as possible, so programs were forced to refine their code. Now memory is cheap and people are forced to upgrade every month. Refining your program to use only 128MB of RAM is no longer required.

Just my opinion anyway
Lee

wolfman

Dack wrote:

Bit of info from https://www.theinquirer.net

http://www.theinquirer.net/Default.aspx?article=30128

Apart from the stupidly large system requirements I don't fancy having to upgrade my monitor etc. to watch movies

Not the most accurate of places to get info from. I've always seen the Inquirer as "The Sun" of the internet world.

Vista will run on much less resources. We have MS as a client, so get loads of stuff via subscriptions, Vista being one. It's been run on an old machine at work with only 512mb ram, and was as smooth as XP. It's only when running the 3D desktop that you'll find it jumps up a lot.

Also, it only uses up about 3-4 gb when installing, but from what I've heard will refuse to install if your partition is less than 7gb.

With regards to having to upgrade your monitor, that's only for High Definition movies. It'll apply to your graphics card too, it's hardware and software related. And to be honest I won't be upgrading straight away. HD is still a long way off being mainstream, and if I want to watch an HD movie I'll buy an LCD Tv when the time is right.

Kundo

If you want to know anything about Windows Vista, or and help with general PC problems this site has loads of information.
http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/home_index.php

bbruce

nickmack wrote:

Interesting info, however as my PCs are critical to work, I wouldn't touch any new Windows OS for at least a year after it's been released.

Should be good for home users to test out though!

Hear hear!
As soon as its released it will need patches, updates, hotfixes or whatever new word they can invent for "corrections due to insufficient debugging before release"

moomintroll_3

bbruce wrote:

Hear hear!
As soon as its released it will need patches, updates, hotfixes or whatever new word they can invent for "corrections due to insufficient debugging before release"

Quite right. I would NEVER touch a new OS before the SP1 version came out at least.

I gave up on Windows last year (and I'm technology agnostic so I'll use the best OS for what I want to do) and switched to Macintosh but not before 10.4.2 was out!

If Vista really is as good as people are saying then I'll probably give it a go but I wouldn't want to be forking out thousands for a shiny new PC just to give it the horsepower it so obviously wants. However, I'm not impressed with it so far. Most of the features appear to be MS catching up with Apple and by the time Vista comes out MacOSX 10.5 (Leopard) will be out as well.

I personally can't see myself switching back but you never know!

G

thewizard

moomintroll wrote:

Quite right. I would NEVER touch a new OS before the SP1 version came out at least.

I gave up on Windows last year (and I'm technology agnostic so I'll use the best OS for what I want to do) and switched to Macintosh but not before 10.4.2 was out!

If Vista really is as good as people are saying then I'll probably give it a go but I wouldn't want to be forking out thousands for a shiny new PC just to give it the horsepower it so obviously wants. However, I'm not impressed with it so far. Most of the features appear to be MS catching up with Apple and by the time Vista comes out MacOSX 10.5 (Leopard) will be out as well.

I personally can't see myself switching back but you never know!

G

All mac users are the same, no offence but Windows Vista will be alot more advanced that any current Version of Mac released to date. Mac is a good operating system, but for what it is designed for, Publishing, I would not reccomend Mac to any beginner computer user and would always point people towrads windows.
Windows Vista will be in my eyes a new generation of computers, much like the Playstatoin 3 will be the next generation of Games Console.

BTW: waiting for SP1 to come out could be a bit of a big mistake because it took Microsoft about two years to release SP2 after SP1 so you might be waiting some time.

thewizard

some more things microsoft want to release round the same time as Windows Vista is the new Windows Live range including:

• Windows Live Messenger (MSN 8)
• Windows Live Mail (Hotmail)
• Windows Live (personalised home page)
• Windows Live Toolbar (Like MSN Toolbar)
• Windows Live Desktop Search (Like MSN Desktop DSearch)
• Windows Live safetey scanner (A free version of Windows One Care, an online virus scanner and tune up scan)
• Windows Live Mobile Search (Searching from your mobile)
• And alot more

www.live.com
http://ideas.live.com
http://safetey.live.com

These new branded programs and services are nice pieces of kit, Windows Live Messenger will be able to communicate with Yahoo Messenger at some point this year so you only need one program. Windows Live Mail is a more dynamic email program, it can be configured to look like the traditional hotmail, Outlook Express or Windows Live mail default. You also get 2GB of storage, finally Microsoft have caught up with Google and Yahoo on the webmail market.

If anybody wants invites to Windows Live Messenger just PM Me