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Weekly Flylady Thread 20th April 2009

pigpen
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Welcome to the weekly Flylady thread. If you need help organising your week when it comes to housework, or just the motivation to do the dreaded housework tasks you have to do, come and join us, hopefully make it a little easier. You never know, you might start to enjoy it!
Following requests to start things steadier for new members who did not realise the tasks list wasn’t a must do, just an encouragement. There will now be level 1, 2 and 3. Level 1 being very basic it has been requested that this is just one task per day, level 2 in the middle, up to 3 which is more advanced and time consuming. If you want to do level 2 you add the tasks on level 1 with the level 2 tasks, if you want to do level 3 you add the tasks on, easy peasy. Choose a level to aim for but be realistic, if you’ve got a busy day on or are just starting etc aim for level one, if you get higher then great, if not then not to worry its only suggestions. Every room comes back around next week. Trust me some days I'll only be doing level one myself.
THESE LISTS ARE ONLY SUGGESTIONS AND NOT A MUST DO LIST, ALWAYS WELCOME TO POST AND FOLLOW YOUR OWN.
Also adding a declutter mission each day. Another one where it’s up to you if you want to do it or if you need to. This follows requests from members who are looking to declutter. Fling boogies, hotspot clearing, cupboard sorts, drawer sorts etc will all be on this list. Any problems with this of any suggestions do please let me know.
A few of the basics before we start the week
Hotspots are any areas which if one thing gets put there, loads of other things follow!
Daily routines are anything you need to do on a daily basis like washing, swish and swipe kitchen and bathroom, ironing, making beds, vacuuming high traffic areas, making meals etc
Night-time routines are all things which make getting ready in the morning easier, preparing clothes for the next day, making lunches, swish & swipes of the kitchen and tidying the living room before you go to bed plus personals like shower/brush teeth etc.
Fling Boogie - stick on some loud music, grab a binbag and whizz around the house finding items that can go out with the rubbish, recycling, for charity shop, basically anything that will stop it cluttering your home.
Swish and swipe/S&S means have a quick wipe over an area such as a sink or toilet to prevent the build up of dirt. This is usually done on a daily basis
HHE/HHC/HHI Half Hour exercise/challenge/ironing ... run around for 30 minutes to the Benny Hill music frantically cleaning exercising or ironing.. other music may be used if you prefer!
5GC five minutes gardening.. make it lovely for your family and enjoy it!
Ok here goes this week!
Monday - Living pit, hallway, stairs!!
Level One
Declutter the floors!
Vacuum/mop floors & stairs!
Level Two
dust over all the electrical appliances.. be careful though I don't want any accidents!
Vacuum under the furniture you can safely move!
Clean the sofas
Level Three
Declutter the inside of a cupboard or drawer!
Sort out coats and bags and shoes.. there must be some that can be put away/chucked?
Dust mantle and polish any display cabinets or bookshelves etc
Extras
Level One
Clear and wipe worksurfaces
Scrub down the front of units and large appliances
Level Two
Wipe and replace small appliances
Clean oven and hob
HHI
Level Three
Wipe the table and chairs... clean cloth if necessary
Sweep and mop the floor
Degunge the fridge!
Extras
Level One
Declutter floors
Declutter the desk and wipe off those cup rings
Level Two
Scrub the tiles, bath, sinks, loo's, shower etc.. don't forget pedestals!!
Polish mirrors and taps
Sort out the toiletries cupboard.. wipe the shelves and make it all nice and neat
Level Three
Sweep and mop/vacuum the floors
empty and clean out the bins
Defrag comp. delete 100 emails
Extras
Level One
Clear the floor!!!
vacuum the floor
Level Two
Strip the bedding get it washed and remake the bed
dust and deweb!
Binbag dance (doesn't have to be in one room it can be from all over the house!)
Level Three
tidy the cupboards /drawers of clothes
Catch up on important phone calls
Wipe grotty marks from the walls and paintwork
Extras
Level One
Strip and wash the bedding
Clear the floordrobe
Level Two
Air the duvet.. if nice hang it out on the line for a blow!
clear the floors and vacuum them!
quick one.. check those smoke alarms!
Level Three
sort through a hotspot
Organise your toiletries and make-up stash
Sort through a cupboard.. make it neat and tidy
Extras
Just because I am nice to you all
My M.A.C.A.W challenge this week is..............
Small announcement!!.. I REALLY don't want to do this but I feel I must.
In the last few weeks the thread has grown exponentially.. which is brilliant and wonderful and I am so pleased to welcome new fly-bodies... BUT.. this also means that some members are unable to participate as they are overwhelmed by the sheer number of posts and cannot keep up. I value ALL the members, the ones who post once a day and the ones who don't post at all and the ones who we all know so intimately. However, I feel there is a lot of 'chitchat' and general gossipy posts being made which have no relevance to the thread. Could all member PLEASE remember this a thread to support each other in flying and decluttering and making their homes beautiful and try to keep the posts on topic (not to the exclusion of all gossip!).
I'm sorry I have to do this but alas.. you all waffle too much!!
We have a lovely little community and I do not want anyone to feel excluded from this.
We have the yahoo group and the facebook group if people want to chat over there that is wonderful but can we please keep THIS thread on track. I know you don't want to lose it any more than I do! PLEASE CAN YOU ADD YOUR MSE USERNAME TO YOUR REQUEST SO WE KNOW YOU AREN'T SOME WEIRDO!!
The weekends you can chat to your hearts content..
Following requests to start things steadier for new members who did not realise the tasks list wasn’t a must do, just an encouragement. There will now be level 1, 2 and 3. Level 1 being very basic it has been requested that this is just one task per day, level 2 in the middle, up to 3 which is more advanced and time consuming. If you want to do level 2 you add the tasks on level 1 with the level 2 tasks, if you want to do level 3 you add the tasks on, easy peasy. Choose a level to aim for but be realistic, if you’ve got a busy day on or are just starting etc aim for level one, if you get higher then great, if not then not to worry its only suggestions. Every room comes back around next week. Trust me some days I'll only be doing level one myself.
THESE LISTS ARE ONLY SUGGESTIONS AND NOT A MUST DO LIST, ALWAYS WELCOME TO POST AND FOLLOW YOUR OWN.
Also adding a declutter mission each day. Another one where it’s up to you if you want to do it or if you need to. This follows requests from members who are looking to declutter. Fling boogies, hotspot clearing, cupboard sorts, drawer sorts etc will all be on this list. Any problems with this of any suggestions do please let me know.
A few of the basics before we start the week
Hotspots are any areas which if one thing gets put there, loads of other things follow!
Daily routines are anything you need to do on a daily basis like washing, swish and swipe kitchen and bathroom, ironing, making beds, vacuuming high traffic areas, making meals etc
Night-time routines are all things which make getting ready in the morning easier, preparing clothes for the next day, making lunches, swish & swipes of the kitchen and tidying the living room before you go to bed plus personals like shower/brush teeth etc.
Fling Boogie - stick on some loud music, grab a binbag and whizz around the house finding items that can go out with the rubbish, recycling, for charity shop, basically anything that will stop it cluttering your home.
Swish and swipe/S&S means have a quick wipe over an area such as a sink or toilet to prevent the build up of dirt. This is usually done on a daily basis
HHE/HHC/HHI Half Hour exercise/challenge/ironing ... run around for 30 minutes to the Benny Hill music frantically cleaning exercising or ironing.. other music may be used if you prefer!
5GC five minutes gardening.. make it lovely for your family and enjoy it!
Ok here goes this week!
Monday - Living pit, hallway, stairs!!
Level One
Declutter the floors!
Vacuum/mop floors & stairs!
Level Two
dust over all the electrical appliances.. be careful though I don't want any accidents!
Vacuum under the furniture you can safely move!
Clean the sofas
Level Three
Declutter the inside of a cupboard or drawer!
Sort out coats and bags and shoes.. there must be some that can be put away/chucked?
Dust mantle and polish any display cabinets or bookshelves etc
Extras
- Wipe and water the plants
- Clean out the pets
- Wipe the dusty paintwork
- Get a pile of filing done!!
Level One
Clear and wipe worksurfaces
Scrub down the front of units and large appliances
Level Two
Wipe and replace small appliances
Clean oven and hob
HHI
Level Three
Wipe the table and chairs... clean cloth if necessary
Sweep and mop the floor
Degunge the fridge!
Extras
- Thoroughly clean the food cupboard
- Run the WM's and DW's through a clean cycle
- Clean all the filters and door seals etc
- Scrub down the radiators and/or paintwork!
Level One
Declutter floors
Declutter the desk and wipe off those cup rings
Level Two
Scrub the tiles, bath, sinks, loo's, shower etc.. don't forget pedestals!!
Polish mirrors and taps
Sort out the toiletries cupboard.. wipe the shelves and make it all nice and neat
Level Three
Sweep and mop/vacuum the floors
empty and clean out the bins
Defrag comp. delete 100 emails
Extras
- binbag dance
- wipe radiator or two!
- Collect all the dirty laundry from upstairs and put it in the wash!
- Clean out any stinky pets!
Level One
Clear the floor!!!
vacuum the floor
Level Two
Strip the bedding get it washed and remake the bed
dust and deweb!
Binbag dance (doesn't have to be in one room it can be from all over the house!)
Level Three
tidy the cupboards /drawers of clothes
Catch up on important phone calls
Wipe grotty marks from the walls and paintwork
Extras
- Clean out any pets
- Wipe over any electricals etc Put away discs/games
- HHI
- HHC in a room that needs lots of attention!!
Level One
Strip and wash the bedding
Clear the floordrobe
Level Two
Air the duvet.. if nice hang it out on the line for a blow!
clear the floors and vacuum them!
quick one.. check those smoke alarms!
Level Three
sort through a hotspot
Organise your toiletries and make-up stash
Sort through a cupboard.. make it neat and tidy
Extras
- Half hour... FILING... meanness I know
- Deweb and dust
- 36 fling boogie!! .. GO
- empty and wash out all the bins!!
Just because I am nice to you all
- Clean one room to level three
- Get uniforms/shoes/bags/lunchboxes cleaned and ready for the new week
- clean out any smelly pets
- HHG
- Wash any windows that need it
- Clean any light fittings that are dusty and in need
- Wash any bedding that has been missed this week
- Sort through one cupboard.. getting rid of EVERYTHING you don't need
- 15 minutes filing
- HHI
- Put away any winter coats/boots/clothes you won't be wearing (we hope) for a few months
- Update the finance spreadsheets.. it should be payday about now for those paid monthly
- Descale the shower head.. soaking in vinegar overnight is recommended!
- food inventory and meal plan!!
- binbag dance!
My M.A.C.A.W challenge this week is..............
Small announcement!!.. I REALLY don't want to do this but I feel I must.
In the last few weeks the thread has grown exponentially.. which is brilliant and wonderful and I am so pleased to welcome new fly-bodies... BUT.. this also means that some members are unable to participate as they are overwhelmed by the sheer number of posts and cannot keep up. I value ALL the members, the ones who post once a day and the ones who don't post at all and the ones who we all know so intimately. However, I feel there is a lot of 'chitchat' and general gossipy posts being made which have no relevance to the thread. Could all member PLEASE remember this a thread to support each other in flying and decluttering and making their homes beautiful and try to keep the posts on topic (not to the exclusion of all gossip!).
I'm sorry I have to do this but alas.. you all waffle too much!!

We have the yahoo group and the facebook group if people want to chat over there that is wonderful but can we please keep THIS thread on track. I know you don't want to lose it any more than I do! PLEASE CAN YOU ADD YOUR MSE USERNAME TO YOUR REQUEST SO WE KNOW YOU AREN'T SOME WEIRDO!!
The weekends you can chat to your hearts content..

LB moment 10/06 Debt Free date 6/6/14
Hope to be debt free until the day I die
Mortgage-free Wannabee (05/08/30)
6/6/14 £72,454.65 (5.65% int.)
08/12/2023 £33602.00 (4.81% int.)
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Those who were new this week blue
AbbieB
AMG2B
AnW'sMum
ashia
Beccah
beccatje
beemuzed
blueberrypie
boddy because I need motivation and organizing. Plus I love the fun and support on here.
broke.22
cally_c
carol22
casleigh
cazzie
cha97michelle
christmasshopper
clarissa_D
Craftyscholar
Davgirl1
DayDreamBeliever
Dazi
DeniseNZ
domino sue
Dustykitten because I keep falling off the wagon and love the community spirit
egon
embb
emily jackson
EssexHebridean
fedupandskint
freedom2b
flying_fresian
Flylady_flower
froddington
funfairprincess
gratefulforhelp
GreenandThrifty
greenbee
Gryfon - because I have far too much to do in far too little time so need help!
gtx
gunsandbanjos (GnB)
harib0uk
Hawthorn ~ be a Noob
heather38
hellsbells45
hex2
Hippy110
hollyh
ifonlyitwaseasier
indigostar
iriedaughter
jacci45
jackywhizz
jackielesley
JAMIEDODGER
jayjay14
jennieshrew
JennyBee
JillD
jinny
jjef
jo1972
Johanne
jue xx
julie_d
juliejim
julliff
Justamum - because I have (virtual) friends here
KAAT_LADY
kamperkat
kassey
kazmeister
kazwookie ~~ here for support and friends
kindlesgirl
Kiwisaver
Lady-Liberty
lanny275
laura2481
Lauradora
Liberty9515
likklegibbon
Lilysue
Lil_me - because she hates having CHAOS (Can't Have Anyone Over Syndrome) but it comes naturally
liuhut
lizzy dripping
loopy-loo73
Mags_50
mamashaz
maralum
menolly
methekidsandthecat
milliejo
moonflower
m0zzy
Mrs_Beatson .. lurks!
Mrs Dawn
mrsmortenharket
msgnomey
Mudbath - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Mum on a mission (MOAM)
Mummyof5
mumofjusttwo
Mumoffour77
mummy2mygirls
Natty68 ~ reminder ~ do not to overdo it at the moment and to rest up now and again and not go for it hell and leather..
newby money saving chicki
Nicki - learning to juggle "w*rk" and home and play
oddjobkia - wants something witty after his pink name but can't think of anything.. But he claims to be a good scrubber
penelope penguin
Penny2myName ~ is working hard.. and lurking!
philb120
PIGPEN.. You may call me ma'am, HRH or merely 'Oh illustrious leader'
Pink fairy
polkadot
Pollybear
Poohbear59
pretz
princessJane
PrincessPixiedust
QOTD
quillion
rach
reformed
Restaholic
rosepink1984
SarahShattered
Scared1980
scaredy cat
serena
sexymouse - cause teaching and having a clean house should be possible
SGT
shazba
shell2001
skint_chick
Skintmummy
skintscotlass
skipsmum
soappie- because housework is not one of my strong points and my life is so full with work, community stuff etc., I need something like this to help me focus
SpiritoftheSouthWest
stefejb
SummerMoon - sometimes lurker, sometimes posting
sunday_girl
Sunnygirl
sunnyGirl
susif1973
suzieq
TAG
The Dragon
TheFiendNextDoor
ThereCanBeOnlyOne
theskintfamily
thriftykatie
thriftmonster
thriftyscotslass
Tiamai_d - hoping to find a cure for lazyarzitis sometime soo
Tired_mummy
Tontodollydog
toochoosey - cause every now and then i need a kick up the @rse
toottifrooti
torianut
Triker
tripletmam
twinmummy
Valli
Vanilla because I hate housework and need motivation
verynewmoneysaver
victoria_ice
vivw
welshgirl78
wendywitch
wilf55
wit40iwtwan
witchypoo
xx_Jo_xx
ZCC72
*zippy*
3tabbycats
83rachel
If you are not on the list please add a christmas tree to your post so I can see you!!
(181 are on the list so far.. cos I KNOW you want to know that)
I have taken a few off.. so if I've taken you off and you are still here feel free to prod me!LB moment 10/06 Debt Free date 6/6/14Hope to be debt free until the day I dieMortgage-free Wannabee (05/08/30)6/6/14 £72,454.65 (5.65% int.)08/12/2023 £33602.00 (4.81% int.)0 -
This is the list of flyers who have completed a day's list.I will amend it here as and when I see you complete your days!
- You dont have to complete the list on the same day to get your star
- Remember the 'extras' are extras and dont count towards the stars!
- Please make it obvious when you have finished a list so that I know you need a star - for example Monday - Kitchen and Dining room Done!
- If you dont have something on the list then it gets deleted - e.g. clean out pets - if no pets no cleaning out done - delete!
- Similarly when it says childrens rooms then you should substitute spare room/utility room/conservatory...etc if you have no childrens rooms.
- If you have no spare room or any other room not on the weekly list then make sure you do any thing thats on that list that you havent already done earlier in the week and try to substiture similar type jobs - make an effort please!!
- You should not be deleting stuff just because you CBA!!
- You may delete stuff if you are not physically fit to do something!
- And for goodness sake remember that the stars are for FUN - there will be no discrimination - no sulking - no striking - no bribing- no cheating - or there will be no stars!!! so there!!:rotfl: :rotfl:
w/c 06/4 - 202 (21) (new total to beat)
w/c 30/3 - 144 (16)
w/c 23/3 - 152 (15)
w/c 16/3 - 164 (18)
AbbieB :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
blueberry :starmod::staradmin:starmod:
boddy:starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
cally_c :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
carol22 :starmod::staradmin :starmod::starmod:
embb :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod: :starmod:
emily :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
fedupandskint :starmod::staradmin:starmod::staradmin
flower :starmod::staradmin
flying fresian :starmod:
froddy :staradmin:starmod::starmod::staradmin:starmod:
funfairprincess :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
gertrudeanna :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
gingernutbizkit :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
hex2 :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
holly :starmod:
jackywhizz :starmod::staradmin:starmod:
jjef :starmod::staradmin:staradmin:starmod::starmod:
juliejim :starmod:
kassey :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
kazwookie :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
laura2481 :staradmin
moonflower :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
mozzy :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
Mrs Dawn :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
mudbath :starmod::staradmin:starmod::staradmin
mummyyof5 :starmod::staradmin:starmod::staradmin:starmod:
natty :starmod::staradmin:starmod:
nicki :starmod:
Penelope Penguin :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
pollybear :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
poohbear :starmod::staradmin
Princess Jane :staradmin:staradmin:starmod:
Quillion :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
rosepink :starmod::staradmin
SAVVYMUMMY :starmod::staradmin:starmod:
serena :starmod:
sexymouse :starmod::staradmin:staradmin:starmod::starmod:
soappie :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
SpititoftheSouthWest :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
Summermoon :starmod::staradmin:starmod:
Sunnygirl (1) :starmod::starmod::staradmin:starmod:
SunnyGirl (2) :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
thriftykatie :staradmin:starmod:
toochoosey :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod: :starmod:
valli :staradmin:staradmin:starmod::starmod::starmod:
vanilla :starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod::starmod:
vivw :starmod:
witchypoo :staradmin
xx_Jo_xx :starmod::starmod:
*zippy* :starmod::staradmin
3tabbycats :starmod::staradmin:starmod::starmod:Peace will be mine
could do better - must try harder
Live each day as if its your last
DFW Nerd #1000 Proud to be dealing with my debts
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Am going to try this week but going back to school means I'm not sure how much I'll do....thanks for the list pigpenWe don't need to do it perfectly - good enough is exactly that GOOD ENOUGH.0
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I am in. Children at school and have to have something to take my mind of of money issues......
Thanks for the list Pigpen.January Grocery 11/3740 -
I'm in, good timing Pigpen and thank you for the lists and Toots for the stars...
Oh, and Pigpen, thanks for no windows.... so pleased, I need to sort out some other stuff and how did you know my Filing was building up???
Well, here goes...
Monday - Living pit, hallway, stairs!
Level One
Declutter the floors!
Vacuum/mop floors & stairs!
Level Two
dust over all the electrical appliances... be careful though I don't want any accidents!
Vacuum under the furniture you can safely move!
Clean the sofas
Level Three
De-clutter the inside of a cupboard or drawer!
Sort out coats and bags and shoes... there must be some that can be put away/chucked?
Dust mantle and polish any display cabinets or bookshelves etc
Extras
Wipe and water the plants
Clean out the pets
Wipe the dusty paintwork
Get a pile of filing done!
My Macaw this week is…
List to SELL 10 things on EBay and clear 50 things by the end of the week (hex's challenge)
My Extras
1. Put items on landing on EBay – I’ve started…!
2. Put library book date into outlook
3. Put DS’s working dates into outlook
4. Take old quilt to kennels
5. Finish last bit of payment plan
6. File all my paperwork away
7. Paint woodwork in DS’s room
8. Make a list of what food we have in, Mealplan from that and go shopping for top ups
Business Stuff
1. Speak to Ikea about ordering and delivery days
2. Enter all invoices for SH
3. Enter all invoices for my business
4. Have a look at stuff we need to do for SH (and my own business)
5. Update bank accounts on QuickBooks
6. Work out floorplans for guest bedroom and lounge
7. Update pricelist to go with new floorplans
8. Check stock and price up waterloo road
9. Sort out proper T&C’s and check them with Lucy
10. Write up profile for senior
11. Get 12 photos ready for senior
12. Get office to send me senior contract
13. Plan my plan of action for coming months
14. Learn more HTML and work on my website
Club Stuff
1. Paint wall in snug area
2. Start painting big hall with others
Projects I want to get done
1. Paint Kitchen walls
2. Fill hole in wall in hallway
3. Plane down table,
4. Sand down chairs,
5. Paint chairs and table legs,
6. Stain/wax top of tableLBM April 2013 - £29,000.00Vanquis CC's PAID - Debenhams SC PAID - A+L OD PAID - Asda CC £783.75Barclaycard CC £1400.78 - BoS CC PAID - Freemans Cat PAIDF/D Loan & CC £1458.96 - Santander Loan PAID - Mum Loan PAIDRBS OD PAID - F/D OD £1026.52Weekly Grocery Challenge - £95.00 budget / spend £-0 -
I'm in, easy week I think as everything is pretty much tidy hehe .............. for once!!!!
Monday - Living pit, hallway, stairs!!
Level One
[STRIKE]Declutter the floors![/STRIKE] Just done, but will probably need done again by bedtime tomorrow
Vacuum/mop floors & stairs!
Level Two
dust over all the electrical appliances.. be careful though I don't want any accidents!
Vacuum under the furniture you can safely move!
Clean the sofas
Level Three
Declutter the inside of a cupboard or drawer!
Sort out coats and bags and shoes.. there must be some that can be put away/chucked?
Dust mantle and polish any display cabinets or bookshelves etc
Extras- Clean out the pets
- Wipe the dusty paintwork
WM x2 should see the last of mount washmore
Hang out/TD
Dishes
S&S kitchen
Meal plan (NEEEEEED to sort something out, as I am eating junk 5 nights out of 7 and my weight is spiralling out of control)An' It Harm None, Do As Thou Will
MACAW... EAT BETTER, no snacks, no junk0 -
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee is iiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnDFW Nerd 267. DEBT FREE 11.06.08
Stick to It by R.B. Stanfield
It matters not if you try and fail, And fail, and try again; But it matters much if you try and fail, And fail to try again.0 -
I'm in again - thank you pigpen and Toots
:T
"There's only one way of life and that's your own" - Levellers
"I'm feeling like a Monday but someday I'll be Saturday night" - Bon Jovi0 -
I'm back in. Thanks toots and pigpen.I wish Germany had a website like moneysavingexpert!0
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Mudbath, just wanted to add the same as others really, I really, really hope your Dad's eye heals fully and that this 'bleed' is not too serious.
Heal Mudbaths Dads Eye vibes heading into the universe. xxxDFW Nerd 267. DEBT FREE 11.06.08
Stick to It by R.B. Stanfield
It matters not if you try and fail, And fail, and try again; But it matters much if you try and fail, And fail to try again.0
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