My rights on moving out of my council flat.

neas

Typing away in my tiny 1 bed privately rented flat, i can only dream of a 7 bed house.... well at least affording to rent one privately and even buying one lol. It just goes to show how weird this country is. You got a better chance of a bigger house if you go down the council housing route as opposed to the private, albeit more expensive route it seems.

Kinda sad really.

And I wish i had a right to move into a bigger house ... but as a private tenant, i got very minimal rights, if my landlord gets repoed i get 14 days to vacate.

roxalana

whilst i agree it is excessive at the moment for 1 bloke to be living in a 7 bed house, he has obviously lived there for a good few decades and to me it doesn't seem very nice to kick an elderly bloke out of the house he has lived in for so long. He would have needed the space when he first moved in and times were different when he did move in.

My advice to the OP is to speak in person to the council or someone slightly more senior if you call up to see what is possible.

It seems sensible to me in terms of reducing costs to the tax payer overall that the OP is given the incentive to move her family into his house to care for him. i.e. that she isn't at risk of being kicked out if he died and not being able to go back to a smaller council house. This would allow her to provide care for her father which would otherwise cost and free up the 5 bed house. I know this would leave the OP with 2 spare bedrooms if he died but surely better than the cost of his care plus 6 vacant rooms whilst he is alive (sorry to be so clinical)

BTW myself and OH are lucky enough to live in a private rented place where we have 2 bedrooms for ourselves but only cos we managed to get that for the same price as a small 1 bed flat through sharing with a stranger (with her own bedroom) and because my landlady is in her 90s and does only life threatening repairs!

theartfullodger

mellowchan stated " Please stop being so unintelligent and read it through before you try to post comments that take up my time. " ..

Hmmm.. your new here eh??

That may not be the best way to encourage other people to help you, notwithstanding your particular problems...

Best wishes to all, including those who don't agree with me..

Lodger

pineapple123

Most councils will only allow 1 x change of tenancy per property ie: if your father had joint tenancy then changed to single if divorced etc then this would be classed as change of tenancy likewise if another person was added to the tenancy, change of fathers name on tenancy etc.
This may cause problems for you if tenancy has changed.
also I think if you move into his property then say 6 months or so cant cope or he cant cope with 3 teens around and needs placement elsewhere then you do not have automatic right to stay in the home, the council may find you smaller suitable accommodation, even less bedrooms than your existing flat.
I have known a case when family moved in with elderly relative gave up own council property and after 2 years father went into care, family expected to stay in council home but where refused however they did come from another area.
also another case of 18 year grandson living in large family home since birth , grandmother went into care because change of tenancy during 34 years in home grandson did not have right to stay and was offered rehousing or nothing.

I think exchanging homes may be worth looking into also you need to have clarity from the council re: your rights to staying in property - get it in writing.

lindsaygalaxy

roxalana wrote: »

whilst i agree it is excessive at the moment for 1 bloke to be living in a 7 bed house, he has obviously lived there for a good few decades and to me it doesn't seem very nice to kick an elderly bloke out of the house he has lived in for so long. He would have needed the space when he first moved in and times were different when he did move in.

Oh that long debate, is anyone entitled to a council house. Many people are in need of one yet so many people who could afford to move into private rent dont because they have it so cheap in a council house while others struggle to survive because they cannot get one.

Many people how own their house or rent privatly downgrade when kids have left home, why should it be any different for council houses. If it is by one bedroom fair enough but by 6 extra bedrooms, come on thats not fair on a family that may be squeezed into a 1 bedroom or hostel that may really need it.

I think that the OP should be able to move in with her father and let her flat go to a family that need it. Then when her kids grown up, she in turn should move into a smaller property.

The system needs to change - council houses now seem to be seen as a right not because of need like they should be, the whole system is unfair.
Sorry if this upsets some people, but if you are in the situation where you are constantly broke because of private rent but working your butt off to make improve your life and support your family but still get no help then you will know where I am coming from.

gizmo0205

Can any of your children not share a bedroom as tbh I cannot see why you would need so many bedrooms? 4 & 5 beds plus council/HA properties are few and far between and you would be lucky to find any council who will give you a property so that you can all have your own bedroom.

tsstss7

gizmo0205 wrote: »

Can any of your children not share a bedroom as tbh I cannot see why you would need so many bedrooms? 4 & 5 beds plus council/HA properties are few and far between and you would be lucky to find any council who will give you a property so that you can all have your own bedroom.

To be fair OP may not have a ground floor flat so it might well be unsuitable for the father as he becomes older.

gizmo0205

tsstss7 wrote: »

To be fair OP may not have a ground floor flat so it might well be unsuitable for the father as he becomes older.

Hi,

I understand that the current property may not be suitably adapted to the OP's dad's needs but the problem seems to lie with the family requesting a larger property than the 4 bed they currently and had hoped to be transferred to a 5 bed rather than moving into the dads 7 bed. What I was trying to explain is that with the OP and their Oh sharing a room, the dad and 3 children they would still only be entitled to a 4 bed as in the eyes of the housing bods 2 of the 3 children should share, which is the reason why they have been refused. If they looked for a 4 bed transfer they would probably have more luck.

tsstss7

gizmo0205 wrote: »

Hi,

I understand that the current property may not be suitably adapted to the OP's dad's needs but the problem seems to lie with the family requesting a larger property than the 4 bed they currently and had hoped to be transferred to a 5 bed rather than moving into the dads 7 bed. What I was trying to explain is that with the OP and their Oh sharing a room, the dad and 3 children they would still only be entitled to a 4 bed as in the eyes of the housing bods 2 of the 3 children should share, which is the reason why they have been refused. If they looked for a 4 bed transfer they would probably have more luck.

Yes - quite possibly.

suseh97

She said they were teenagers. If they are 16 or over then no they cannot share. The council will class them as adults and needing their own seperate bedrooms.