Do i need a passport if i went to France on the ferry?

inspector_monkfish

neilbond007 wrote: »

it's like that advert on sky sports when he sings the footy songs with about 8 different teams in

...and your chosen specialist subject is........

Blakespops

whatusername wrote: »

I didn't say he wasn't however when im asked the question i normally (like almost everyone i know) say im Scottish (or English whatever) first. This is the first time ive seen anyone refer to themselves as a European first

My Grandfather fought in both wars and would be so upset at how we are now giving away the rights of what makes britain british. "Hospital bans Bibles, crosses from chapel" http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25311152-5001021,00.html

Nottingham School Cancels Christmas to Make Way for Islam http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/audio/Campaign-road-crossing-Blidwortharticle-373994-details/article.html

How many rights have been passed on to europe like some of our tax laws, fishing, even work hours are now in hands of europe. I am a Brit and proud of it, we are an open country but please do not allow us to become a doormat for the rest of europe and the world. stand up be proud to be British.

omelette451

neilbond007 wrote: »

Isn't most of our history with Europe fighting with them?

Yes, and that's precisely my point. European countries fought with each other because they didn't understand each other and because they saw 'others' as inherently inferior. European literature and historical documents are full of ignorant throwaway statements criticising other people for being different, even though it usually only comes down to the shape of their nose or the colour of their hair. But then you get periods of peace which were usually brought about because noble or royal families inter-married across the continent, and yes, that did include ours. Then you look at the 'flexible geography', by which I mean that the borders of twelfth-century 'Britain' in no way resemble Britain's contemporary borders. Did you know, for example, that for hundreds of years south-west France (where Bordeaux is) was part of England? Even though the rest of France was not? But is someone born in Bordeaux today, to descendents of the English families who lived there then, entitled to take British citizenship? No, of course not. It's all an inter-mingled mess, and we can't deny it.

jammin wrote: »

This is a nonsensical question. European countries play each other in the Euro championships. Not Europe vs other.

It's also a nonsensical question because I couldn't care less about football, or any other sport for that matter. I don't mind other people supporting a particular team, but not if it gets to the 'down with you frogs' stage - there's never any excuse for nationalistic abuse.

whatusername wrote: »

This is the first time ive seen anyone refer to themselves as a European first

To be honest, I try to avoid answering such questions as much as possible, as I don't care much for the inferences people make from any answer I give. However, if pressed, I would say I have a British passport (note not 'I am British'), but yes I do consider myself European above British, English, or anything else.

omelette451

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

gay.
no doubt.

And where on earth do you get that from? Is it supposed to be some kind of insult? Do you have any evidence? Or did you just assume from some sort of idiotic stereotype something about which you have absolutely no idea? Perhaps you get off on throwing out homophobic abuse?

(For the record, I am not at all gay. I'm not entirely sure how this is relevant to the debate here, but for some reason I feel the need to point that out.)

inspector_monkfish

omelette451 wrote: »

Yes, and that's precisely my point. European countries fought with each other because they didn't understand each other and because they saw 'others' as inherently inferior. European literature and historical documents are full of ignorant throwaway statements criticising other people for being different, even though it usually only comes down to the shape of their nose or the colour of their hair. But then you get periods of peace which were usually brought about because noble or royal families inter-married across the continent, and yes, that did include ours. Then you look at the 'flexible geography', by which I mean that the borders of twelfth-century 'Britain' in no way resemble Britain's contemporary borders. Did you know, for example, that for hundreds of years south-west France (where Bordeaux is) was part of England? Even though the rest of France was not? But is someone born in Bordeaux today, to descendents of the English families who lived there then, entitled to take British citizenship? No, of course not. It's all an inter-mingled mess, and we can't deny it.



It's also a nonsensical question because I couldn't care less about football, or any other sport for that matter. I don't mind other people supporting a particular team, but not if it gets to the 'down with you frogs' stage - there's never any excuse for nationalistic abuse.



To be honest, I try to avoid answering such questions as much as possible, as I don't care much for the inferences people make from any answer I give. However, if pressed, I would say I have a British passport (note not 'I am British'), but yes I do consider myself European above British, English, or anything else.

so you have to admit, you are just a little bit weird

omelette451

Blakespops wrote: »

My Grandfather fought in both wars and would be so upset at how we are now giving away the rights of what makes britain british. "Hospital bans Bibles, crosses from chapel"

How many rights have been passed on to europe like some of our tax laws, fishing, even work hours are now in hands of europe.

So wars, bibles, Christian symbolism, tax laws, fishing, and press-sensationalism are all that makes Britain British then, are they? How wonderful!

omelette451

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

so you have to admit, you are just a little bit weird

Define 'weird'.

Blakespops

omelette451 wrote: »

there's never any excuse for nationalistic abuse.

MMMMMM tell the french that every time they go on strike blocking the ports effectivly holding people hostage by not allowing their ferries to bring them home.

inspector_monkfish

omelette451 wrote: »

Define 'weird'.

omelettes are weird....

Blakespops

omelette451 wrote: »

So wars, bibles, Christian symbolism, tax laws, fishing, and press-sensationalism are all that makes Britain British then, are they? How wonderful!

No we are open and welcoming nation and rightly so, but when the people who move here start abusing the hospitality or our own government start giving the rights of self govorning over to europe then we the people need to start saying "hold on a minute that is just not right" they are slowly watering down our nation so we will just be the united states of europe without ever being asked.