UK Stockmarket 2009 and beyond

tradetime

SPR levels and the SPX matches for me not the SPY, think I need to ignore spy tbh
http://web11.twitpic.com/img/2326860...66f-scaled.jpg

SPR? your link just shows me a blank page, not sure if it's my system or something else.

Out of idle curiosity, why does the ftse100 screen above have 105 stocks in it?

Emotions are a killer in trading, human nature has an inherent need to personalize everything, which is why imho, trading strategies should be as mechanical a possible so a trader remains detached from the whole process, it is probably one of the hardest skills to accomplish without handing the whole process over to a computer, and quite frankly for whatever reason it is beyond attainment for most people.

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[QUOTE=tradetime;
Emotions are a killer in trading, human nature has an inherent need to personalize everything, which is why imho, trading strategies should be as mechanical a possible so a trader remains detached from the whole process, it is probably one of the hardest skills to accomplish without handing the whole process over to a computer, and quite frankly for whatever reason it is beyond attainment for most people.[/QUOTE]

absolutely right and that is why paper trading is worse than useless. Trading with real money sorts the men from the boys

uk_steve

tradetime wrote: »

Out of idle curiosity, why does the ftse100 screen above have 105 stocks in it?

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mmmm i was just thinking that after seeing the chart

turbobob

Well, Royal Dutch Shell and Schroders are two constituents who are listed twice (different share classes). But that doesn't explain the other three.

sabretoothtigger

tradetime wrote: »

SPR? your link just shows me a blank page, not sure if it's my system or something else.

Out of idle curiosity, why does the ftse100 screen above have 105 stocks in it?

Emotions are a killer in trading, human nature has an inherent need to personalize everything, which is why imho, trading strategies should be as mechanical a possible so a trader remains detached from the whole process, it is probably one of the hardest skills to accomplish without handing the whole process over to a computer, and quite frankly for whatever reason it is beyond attainment for most people.

Too clever website stops me sharing that link, here are the support pivot resistance levels for yesterday including spx. Probably would be good if I worked it out myself in future
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7061/232686019978475.jpg


Not sure why they included extras but theres another shuffle soon so maybe they'll be back in, I thought Tate might be back

[B]List of FTSE 100 companies[/B]

 This reflects the quarterly reshuffle effective on 22 June 2009.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTSE100#cite_note-2"][3][/URL]
 There are 100 companies in the index, but a total of 102 listings as two classes of shares are included for Royal Dutch Shell and Schroders.
 
[LIST=1]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3i"]3i[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiral_Group"]Admiral Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Trust"]Alliance Trust[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMEC"]AMEC[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo_American_PLC"]Anglo American[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antofagasta_plc"]Antofagasta[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_British_Foods"]Associated British Foods[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AstraZeneca"]AstraZeneca[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomy_Corporation"]Autonomy Corporation[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviva"]Aviva[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems"]BAE Systems[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BG_Group"]BG Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BHP_Billiton"]BHP Billiton[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP"]BP[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Group"]BT Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Beatty"]Balfour Beatty[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barclays"]Barclays[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways"]British Airways[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_American_Tobacco"]British American Tobacco[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Land"]British Land Company[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Sky_Broadcasting"]British Sky Broadcasting Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunzl"]Bunzl[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_%26_Wireless"]Cable & Wireless[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_plc"]Cadbury[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairn_Energy"]Cairn Energy[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capita_Group"]Capita Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_Corporation_%26_plc"]Carnival[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrica"]Centrica[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobham_plc"]Cobham[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compass_Group"]Compass Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diageo"]Diageo[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Natural_Resources_Corporation"]Eurasian Natural Resources Corporation[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experian"]Experian[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_%26_Colonial_Investment_Trust"]Foreign & Colonial Investment Trust[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnillo_plc"]Fresnillo[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_Provident"]Friends Provident[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4S"]G4S[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GlaxoSmithKline"]GlaxoSmithKline[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC"]HSBC[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammerson"]Hammerson[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Retail_Group"]Home Retail Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICAP_%28company%29"]ICAP[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Tobacco"]Imperial Tobacco[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inmarsat"]Inmarsat[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterContinental_Hotels_Group"]InterContinental Hotels Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Power"]International Power[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertek_Group"]Intertek Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invensys"]Invensys[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Matthey"]Johnson Matthey[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhmys"]Kazakhmys[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingfisher_plc"]Kingfisher[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Securities"]Land Securities Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_%26_General"]Legal & General[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_International"]Liberty International[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyds_Banking_Group"]Lloyds Banking Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Stock_Exchange_Group"]London Stock Exchange Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonmin"]Lonmin[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Group"]Man Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marks_%26_Spencer"]Marks & Spencer[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrisons"]Wm Morrison Supermarkets[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Grid_plc"]National Grid[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_%28clothing%29"]Next[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Mutual"]Old Mutual[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearson_PLC"]Pearson[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennon_Group"]Pennon Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrofac"]Petrofac[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prudential_plc"]Prudential[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_Insurance_Group"]RSA Insurance Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randgold_Resources"]Randgold Resources[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reckitt_Benckiser"]Reckitt Benckiser[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_Elsevier"]Reed Elsevier[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexam"]Rexam[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Tinto_Group"]Rio Tinto Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_plc"]Rolls-Royce Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Bank_of_Scotland_Group"]Royal Bank of Scotland Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Dutch_Shell"]Royal Dutch Shell[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SABMiller"]SABMiller[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sage_Group"]Sage Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sainsbury%27s"]J Sainsbury[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schroders"]Schroders[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_and_Southern_Energy"]Scottish and Southern Energy[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco_Group"]Serco Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severn_Trent"]Severn Trent[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shire_plc"]Shire Pharmaceuticals Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Nephew"]Smith & Nephew[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiths_Group"]Smiths Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Chartered_Bank"]Standard Chartered Bank[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Life"]Standard Life[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesco"]Tesco[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cook_Group"]Thomas Cook Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_Reuters"]Thomson Reuters[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUI_Travel"]TUI Travel[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullow_Oil"]Tullow Oil[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unilever"]Unilever[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Utilities"]United Utilities[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta_Resources"]Vedanta Resources[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodafone"]Vodafone[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPP_Group"]WPP Group[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolseley_%28builders%27_merchant%29"]Wolseley[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xstrata"]Xstrata[/URL]
[/LIST]
   
  
 [B][[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FTSE_100_Index&action=edit&section=4"]edit[/URL]] Market capitalisation[/B]

 The following table lists the 38 FTSE 100 companies which had a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_capitalisation"]market capitalisation[/URL] of £5 billion or more on 31 January 2009, the last trading day of January 2009.
   Rank Company Business type Capitalisation (£m)   

(from stock exchange listing) 
  1 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Dutch_Shell"]Royal Dutch Shell[/URL] Energy (Oil/Gas) 106,415   2 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP"]BP[/URL] Energy (Oil/Gas) 93,177   3 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodafone"]Vodafone Group[/URL] Telecommunications (mobile) 68,260   4 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC"]HSBC[/URL] Financial (bank) 65,427   5 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GlaxoSmithKline"]GlaxoSmithKline[/URL] Pharmaceuticals (inc. research) 63,899   6 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AstraZeneca"]AstraZeneca[/URL] Pharmaceuticals (inc. research) 38,980   7 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_American_Tobacco"]British American Tobacco[/URL] Tobacco 37,934   8 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BG_Group"]BG Group[/URL] Energy (Oil/Gas) 32,024   9 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesco"]Tesco[/URL] Consumer goods/food 28,193   10 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BHP_Billiton"]BHP Billiton[/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTSE100#cite_note-f2-3"][4][/URL] Mining 26,065   11 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diageo"]Diageo[/URL] Consumer goods/drinks 23,777   12 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unilever"]Unilever[/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTSE100#cite_note-f3-4"][5][/URL] Food production 19,655   13 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Tobacco"]Imperial Tobacco Group[/URL] Tobacco 19,246   14 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reckitt_Benckiser"]Reckitt Benckiser[/URL] Consumer goods/household 18,949   15 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SABMiller"]SABMiller[/URL] Consumer goods/drinks 16,939   16 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo_American_plc"]Anglo American[/URL] Mining 16,787   17 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Chartered"]Standard Chartered[/URL] Financial (bank) 16,543   18 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Grid_plc"]National Grid[/URL] Energy (distribution) 15,861   19 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Tinto_Group"]Rio Tinto Group[/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTSE100#cite_note-f1-5"][6][/URL] Mining 15,082   18 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyds_TSB"]Lloyds TSB[/URL] Financial (bank) 14,825   19 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems"]BAE Systems[/URL] Aerospace and defence 14,184   20 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrica"]Centrica[/URL] Energy (consumer distribution) 13,154   21 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_and_Southern_Energy"]Scottish and Southern Energy[/URL] Energy (consumer distribution) 11,407   22 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barclays_Bank"]Barclays Bank[/URL] Financial (bank) 8,881   23 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Bank_of_Scotland"]Royal Bank of Scotland[/URL] Financial (bank) 8,730   24 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Sky_Broadcasting"]British Sky Broadcasting[/URL] Media (broadcasting) 8,712   25 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prudential"]Prudential[/URL] Financial (insurance) 8,302   26 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviva"]Aviva[/URL] Financial (insurance) 8,290   27 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Energy_Group"]British Energy Group[/URL] Energy (electricity) 8,120   28 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Group"]BT Group[/URL] Telecommunications 8,112   29 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_Plc"]Cadbury Plc[/URL] Food production 7,594   30 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrisons"]Morrisons[/URL] Consumer goods/food 7,266   31 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compass_Group"]Compass Group[/URL] Travel and leisure 6,384   32 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Plc"]Rolls-Royce Plc[/URL] Aerospace and defence 6,083   33 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sainsbury"]Sainsbury[/URL] Consumer goods/food 5,784   34 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_Elsevier"]Reed Elsevier[/URL] Media 5,722   34 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shire_Plc"]Shire Plc[/URL] Pharmaceuticals (inc. research) 5,655   35 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xstrata"]Xstrata[/URL] Mining 5,534   36 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullow_Oil"]Tullow Oil[/URL] Energy (oil and gas) 5,524   37 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearson"]Pearson[/URL] Media 5,354   38 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_British_Foods"]Associated British Foods[/URL] Food production 5,251

There has been or are even still funds run completely by computers. I think the people interfered when it looked like the computer was about to trade badly, turns out the computer was right, opps

I think getting a feel for a company or market moves helps alot, to then place that ahead of your fear/ambitions of losing or gaining money is hard yea





Same list by Market cap, amlin as smallest appears to be misplaced in the list



http://www.investorresearch.mdgms.com/tools/heat_maps.html?INDEX=1918069&SECTOR=&DPCATEGORY=CB&SPPLOT=W4&CBPLOT=CAP&DDPLOT=BUY%3A1MONTH&ORDERBY=TOP



Kaz owns a quarter of ENRC but its own market cap is half the size. Seems quite lobsided especially when Kaz wants to take over enrc completely








http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=a1Qa_Q_PbGWc

ricll

sabretoothtigger wrote: »

ricll what about bp since they are operating in Iraq now, do you think they'd expand beyond the basics

not sure about BP at the moment sabre, I wouldn't buy it right now, check this board if you are interested http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?display=discussion&code=cotn:BP-.L&it=le .I'm concentrating on GKP as I believe there's still way to go upwards. I got in at the middle of the way up and am still doing 50% in about a week or so, with BP it would take ages to get the same result.

sabretoothtigger

You could take warrants or some leveraged bet on bp probably but otherwise yea.
If dollar gets stronger or the whole consumer demand not returning story becomes more focused that'll mean a drop in the oil price and also the bp share price I would guess


William Hill is mentioned and its related to Ptec so just this tip in case its of use to any
William Hill Plc (WMH)

Horse racing is bad, said Jeffrey Bernard, because there is a line of windows that says 'Bet' and only one that says 'Pay'.Answer: Buy the shares. But there has not been so much green grass for bookmakers to graze on in recent years.Their world has changed, and so has William Hill's. Has the company adapted to the changing times? You bet...
First aired: Mon, 10/08/2009 - 11:17

http://www.iii.co.uk/go?c=6z7k36&nl=91


week ahead- http://www.iii.co.uk/go?c=cvnjd5&nl=91

uk_steve

^^^^

good read about william hill and video link ;-)

sabretoothtigger

They do look cheap, cant say I know much about them otherwise. We do have a thriving gambling section on this forum I believe though they dont aim to gamble as such I wonder how they'd rate wmh online system and its prospects



I'll add them to my watchlist anyway, see how they compare to igg



Fresnillo increasingly looks attractive to me at least on scale anyhow. They got major support at this level (ipo was 530), announced some results today with falling profits but nothing that bad really afaik and the prospects of a higher silver price are still there though commoditys are out of favour with the market for now.
Risky business but they still yield a decent div and are maybe declining leading upto and hopefully rising exdiv, depending alot on currency and china
monday morning chart looks bullish to me

uk_steve

i know a bit about the gaming ind myself one way or another i was involved for a good few years being good and bad:rolleyes:

i dont know much about betting companys but 1 thing i do know william hill is a big player in the game and what has changed in this game is the (online betting and gaming fruits / poker/ black jacks etc )

imo the days of high street arcades and seafront arcades is getting harder and harder as years go on
im sure big places like blackpool etc will always do well but its the little places are getting a tuff ride now

im not a gambler on horses or dogs etc ( only gamble for me is the stock market and being a landlord in property )

I can see there is a future in online gaming big time

its a guess which firm or company is going to corner the world market
but i would like to think william hill will be up there somewhere!;)

with the added on bonuses of tax reductions for the firm is good move

sadly Uk goverment/tax department do kick themselfs in the teeth sometimes:think:
anyway i will be watching this firm closely myself :beer: